Tsubasa RC Discussion

[Akki Rei]

I'm surprised no one started a thread for TRC unless I somehow missed it. If so I guess this can be deleted.

Anyways, I love TRC. Actually I love CLAMP's work in general. They have beautiful artwork... although their characters always seem to be on the anorexic side of body weight... its still gorgeous! And their stories are amazing.

The best thing I love about TRC is how they are connecting all their work together. I'm also a SyaoranxSakura fan which is one of the many reasons why I love TRC.

It'll be fun to share other people's thoughts about TRC so let's discus! :D

[Faiakin]

I actually don't get why I never started this. There are so many fans of TRC around here it seems.

This is the first series i've read of CLAMP's, so i'm kinda dreading the ending cause CLAMP has a reputation of not being so nice to its characters. But so far, i love the story.

My favorite character by far is Kuro. The rest of the characters have been up and down throughout the series, but Kuro is the only one that hasn't let me down at all.

The next fight should be really good. I'm really curious as to what the real syaoran can do in a fight. I know that we haven't seen his full potential yet.

[Akki Rei]

Yeah, CLAMP does, but they did have a couple of good endings. Although these good endings are based on only having seen their anime versions. They do a good job screwing with their characters in the story though.

All of the characters haven't been disappointing in my view, but I do love Kuro. He's really shown many sides of him since the beginning of the journey.

Yeah, I can't wait either! I'm real excited about it. I'm curious to see if Seishirou saids anything more revealing about the real Syaoran.

[Faiakin]

The latest chapter of Tsubasas Resevoir Chronicle can be found here (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11612#post11612).

I kinda have mixed emotions about this one. Its kinda a let down to me since there are very few panels that show the Sayoran/Seishirou fight...which i was REALLY looking forward to. but, the conversation between fai and tomoyo-hime was very interesting. but why do we keep learning about this "secret deals" with yuko long after they happen!!! this is kinda getting annoying. now i'm wondering if syaoran or kurogane made "secret deals" as well. Syaoran i would expect, but kurogane...he's too proud, and yet..at this point...i don't think it would really shock me.

i need to stop here before i break into a violent rage...just give me a good fight clamp! :Hammer:...ok, i'm done :Hot & Humid:...what do you guys think of this chapter?

[Kraker2k]

Yet again a chapter has gone over my head. I seriously need to re-read this story a few times.

[Akki Rei]

I thought the chapter could've been better, but it does enforce CLAMP's idea that "nothing is coincidence, but inevitable". It does tell you that this will be a one on one fight. Kuro's not going to jump in and it seems like neither of the other characters. Maybe its just to tell the readers where the characters stand in the basis of this fight?

I'm hoping the next chapter will be a fight. The last page got me real excited, but I'm also bracing for disappointment. The real Syaoran looks like he can put up an awesome fight.

[Faiakin]

The real Syaoran looks like he can put up an awesome fight.

Yep...i'm looking forward to the same thing too. You could tell that he was holding back when he fought his clone back in Tokyo (i think i got the right country..can never keep them straight). I would be really disappointed if he can't defeat Seishirou.

[Akki Rei]

We have to remember though that Seishirou could also use the power of the feather against Syoaran. He still has it right? I don't think I saw him putting it aside or anything.

[Faiakin]

As far as I know he still has the feather...i think its in his chest still (although not completely confident on that). but we really don't much about either of their fighting abilities (other than Seishirou being way above clone Syaoran's lvl in Ouro-i think thats the name...god there's too many places to remember in this series). so i guess we can all just sit back and hope for a good fight.

[Akki Rei]

I just finished reading the chapter and I wished there was more fighting. I already want next Tuesday to be here. On topic though, the real Syoaran and the clone Syaoran... they don't seem at all different. The only difference there seems to be is who physically grew up in Clow Country with Sakura. Or maybe its just me?

[Faiakin]

well...i'm thinking that Clamp is gonna make it out to be a big difference than what readers are assuming atm. but time will tell with that one. and yes...yet another disappointing week when it comes to fighting...sigh. And again...next week looks promising...atleast i can look forward to seeing what the results of syaoran's attack was :p

[Faiakin]

TRC 173: A Wish Not Undermined (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033) is out...so what did you all think?

First off...bringing back the dead...hmm..didn't shock me much at all, I figured it had to be something taboo like this. I would assume that Fei Wong is trying to bring back Clow Reed...but at what sacrifice? (does thinking about this makes anyone else think of FMA as well?)

anyways...

Finally! TRC and xxxHolic really have converged. It will be interesting next week how clamp will write out the next chapter of each series, since they both left off with nearly the exact same page. This does make me fear that both works are coming close to their ends. :Cry:

[kenjimaru]

I change thread title for everyone. I no read chapter yet maybe tomorrow so not much comment .

[Akki Rei]

Taking a break from studying. Its been a busy week...

Anyways, I always thought Fei Wong's wish was to bring someone back from the dead and since life can't be be brought back by any simple means, he is using this crazy alternative route that involves scattering Sakura's heart memories. But really gathering her body memories as it goes through different dimensions, which is apparently the entity needed to revive someone back. The ultimate sacrifice seems to be Sakura's memories though.

I have my own special theory about how TRC is actually a sequel to Cardcaptor Sakura, but its more of a fanfic idea that will probably be never produce since I don't have the time.

What I really wanna know is where the clone Syaoran is. I'm thinking the hand at the end of the chapter is either his or Fei Wong's or maybe even the real Syaoran, but the timing of events wouldn't make sense.

I enjoyed the chapter and the pretty "raitei shourai" at the beginning.

[leonzon_ben44]

When will they put up chapter 175. im really waiting its already Saturday and it still isnt up yet ?? hope u guys can put it later this day or sunday i hope i see it as soon as possible anyway chapter 174 is great go Clone syaoran hope u turn back to ur old self kick the orginal syaoran's butt heheh many thanks to those who upload TRC have a good day

[makhan]

it will be on Tuesday and we will make scanlation right away :]
you have to wait few more days

[Faiakin]

yeah...gotta love how clamp decide to take a week off with TRC and xxxHolic after the chapters last week =/ i think they're playing with us.

[Faiakin]

ugh i need to stop double posting in this thread :p

anyways...Chapter 175: is out!

Pretty good fight scene in the second half of this one...although it didn't seem to last long =/ i'll be pissed if R!Syaoran doesn't get up.

As for the conversation between Fuuma and his bro...kinda scary about Syaoran's potential. makes me think not too positively about the outcome of this fight =/

[leonzon_ben44]

As yuuko said the white mokona has an earring she said its a magic tool while the black one has a sealing tool maybe the black one earring is use to seal the clone syaoran so he can turn back to normal but you never know right
Oh and :Hi: to everyone

[venicia777]

Oh and :Hi: to everyone

Hellooo Leonzon_ben, i think there is an existing thread for the TRC. if there is this thread will be merged with it. Keep on posting and creating as many threads as you can.

[makhan]

As yuuko said the white mokona has an earring she said its a magic tool while the black one has a sealing tool maybe the black one earring is use to seal the clone syaoran so he can turn back to normal but you never know right
Oh and :Hi: to everyone

Welcome to Franky House! Good to see another TRC fan here :D
I like your theory :D Would be nice if we could get old Syaoran back. But what would happen to original Syaoran then?

[star90]

wow this thread is old. but I just had to share what I realized in TRC chapter 190. I don't think creating another TRC thread is allowed, so yeah. I'll get to the point.
Okay, so in the beginning, they say Clow Reed is the king of the Clow country and is Sakura's father, while Fujitaka, an archaeologist, is the foster father of Syaoran.
In chapter 190, you find out Fujitaka is actually the real king of Clow country, and is Sakura's father, along with Nadeshiko as Sakura's mother. Then who is Clow Reed to the country? How can Fujitaka adopt Syaoran later on like in the beginning and work as an archaeologist for the ruins when he is the king of the country?! Is this a hole CLAMP did not cover or is there some explanation behind it? Plus, in the anime, there is this flashback showing the death of Sakura's rabbit and Clow Reed having a conversation with Sakura as his father. What is going on?! Or is this just me? SAKURA HAS TWO FATHERS?! WHAAAT?! Ok, sorry. But if you don't believe me, search wikipedia TRC about Clow Reed and Fujitaka and it'll both say they are Sakura's father.
Well, that's all I have to say.

[Appa4u]

There are so many plot twists in the manga that the only reason why there are parallel worlds can only be the answer to what has happened. The next chapter could bring light to what Sakura's powers are actually doing to the time and space.

[LadyBurningRose]

Wow. i was really surprised to see TRC in the shounen section. i really thought it was one of the REALLY shoujo titles.

I wonder if this also means more boys like it than girls, which is generally the case in "shounen", almost by definition. Big surprise!

[matty543]

Ive been wondering this for a while now but does anyone think Fei Wong is Watanuki??

[Yasu]

I have been thinking that Fei Wong Reed is Watanuki after reading this latest chapter of TRC and xxxHOLIC.

Some people have argued that the wishes of Watanuki and Fei Wong Reed don't agree with each other, so they can't be the same person. But I don't really know if that whole argument is totally true. While their wishes can be different, I don't know where in the timeline Watanuki is currently stuck at.

For all I know, Fei Wong Reed, could be someone that time traveled from the future, in order to grant a wish in the past. After all, the TRC group has traveled through various dimensions and through time itself on their adventure together. So it is possible that Fei Wong Reed is one of the other characters that are all grown up.

[matty543]

that whole timeline thing is weird cause syoran has basically gave birth to himself!!?? and thats bloody weird O_o

[Yasu]

Yeah, it sure is weird that the Real Syaoran pretty much gave birth to himself.

I wonder what the Father Syaoran and Mother Sakura are going to do to stop Fei Wong Reed from granting his wish?

[shaea]

I'm reading Tsubasa and xxxHolic simultaniously, and I really like both manga but sometime the storyline is so confusing that I had to read it again and again to understand it!

And about Watanuki=Fei wong, there's huge possibility of that considering the storyline so far~
But, of course if I can decide the course of the story, I won't make Watanuki become Fei Wong!
Just can't stand it!!

[Yasu]

We Chapter 227 was released and I must say that this chapter was mainly for the pictures if not anything else. Now, it would seem that Fei Wong Reed is going to use both the Real Sakura and Syaoran with the Father Syaoran and Mother Sakura (who are the clones reborn).

[matty543]

Watanuki=Fei wong, i gotta say no after reading this chapter it seems his only doing it to beat Clow Reed.

[Yasu]

Well, a new chapter for Tsubasa was released a few days ago. It would seem like FWR is ready to destroy just about anything that gets in his way of accomplishing his goals. And the Sakura's and Syaoran's seem to have each predicted the upcoming situation that they are trapped in for now.

Kurogane and Fai finally got another chance to try and help out the Sakura's and Syaoran's when they became stuck in the tube once again. But unfortunately, FWR still had plenty of power to parry their attacks and perform a counter attack on the 2 of them.

[T-6000]

I'm surprised no one started a thread for TRC unless I somehow missed it. If so I guess this can be deleted.

Anyways, I love TRC. Actually I love CLAMP's work in general. They have beautiful artwork... although their characters always seem to be on the anorexic side of body weight... its still gorgeous! And their stories are amazing.

The best thing I love about TRC is how they are connecting all their work together. I'm also a SyaoranxSakura fan which is one of the many reasons why I love TRC.

It'll be fun to share other people's thoughts about TRC so let's discus! :D

It took awhile for the series to grow onto me, but after the second volume I was hooked. I like the series alot and for me it's something original and new. The story is pretty good, I like how the characters evolve (Though Kurogane pisses me off so much I feel like throwing him into a Nuclear Reactor while the damn thing is still on!), and it has some clever plot twists. What I don't get is why alot of people don't like Tsubasa Chronicle. But then again, in the PC Gaming community I think I'm one of few who likes F.E.A.R. 2, Gears of War, Quake 4, Prey, and Wolfenstein. Also amongst the PC Gaming community I think I'm one of the few who thinks that Half-Life 2 and Bioshock are severely overrated. Well.....I like Half-Life 2 alot but it's not exactly the Best PC game ever, as PC gamers put it. I guess what I am trying to say is that I'm use to liking and enjoying stuff that tends to be critically panned. And at the very least Tsubasa isn't a rehashed High School drama with alot of fanservice with bucketloads of panty and bra shots.

[Yasu]

I remember talking to a person that didn't like Tsubasa so much and their reasoning for why they didn't like Tsubasa had to due with the fact that Clamp has so many twists in the manga(s) storyline(s), which made understanding the series almost impossible for some (or most) people to follow.

Not everyone likes the fact that Clamp's manga's aren't easy to follow, even though you could have read more than half to three-quarters of a series and you still can't understand or predict with good odds of what is going to happen in the future.

Unfortunately, their are always going to be people in life that don't like certain manga(s) and/or anime(s). They will just have to get over the fact that some mangaka's like to conduct their stories in certain patterns that aren't similar to other mangaka's.

[the follower 89]

well i admit that tsubasa is sometimes hard to follow, but i'm keping on, sometimes don't make sense but later it totally does, i think i should read xxxholic sience it seem to go hand by had whit tsubasa, but a question does holic help understand better tsubasa?

and yeah i think the story telling is original and not as predictable as other series, i enjoy trying to predict what will happen in the future of a series but whit tsubasa is imposible like the whole clones things, that was unexpected and brought in an original way ^^

[Yasu]

xxxHOLIC explains the reasoning behind the results from certain actions that were made by the characters in the series.

As to whether or not this series is a must to read in order to better understand Tsubasa, I would have to say "NO." xxxHOLIC will help you better understand the events that happen in Tsubasa and what happens to the prices that the TRC group pays to Yuuko.

I would recommend that a person who is reading Tsubasa to read xxxHOLIC as well. The crossover references that are made in xxxHOLIC can explain a lot of events that happen in the TRC world, especially some of the conversations that Watanuki has with the TRC Sakura and Syaoran.

In the beginning half of xxxHOLIC, there isn't going to be a whole lot of events that are going to be related to TRC. Rather, the events are going to be about Watanuki learning about the ways of running the shop that Yuuko is currently running. It won't be until the later half of the series, that the storyline of xxxHOLIC will be turning for the better in regards to Tsubasa crossovers.

[Vande]

Henji of MH has confirmed that 232 is the final chapter of TRC. So it ends in issue #44 :(

[the follower 89]

is that true because if it is, then we only got two more chapters to go then :(

[matty543]

When the hell is xxxholic coming out its been a damn long time!

[Yasu]

As you can already see, a new chapter of xxxHOLIC and Tsubasa has been released for a while now.

This chapter of Tsubasa is something that I can't really say is something that I completely understood. I understand how in the world they got out of the place. But I am going out on a limb here and guessing that since the Clone Syaoran and Sakura weren't actually existing before Real Syaoran's wish was granted, the Clones who were reborn as real human beings aren't going to be allowed to live anymore.

And since the Clones were reborn as actual people, they should be allowed to die as actual human beings.

[matty543]

OH MY GOD WAS THAT IT!!??

How disappointing was that ending what the hell happened in the last 2-3 pages.........:sigh:

well at least XXXholics still good

[Yasu]

I too was disappointed with the ending to the TRC Series.

I was like, "How in the world can a series as confusing as this, end with something so open ended?"

At least their is supposed to be one more release for the series. Although, I don't know what the content in the next release is going to be about.

[Vande]

Well the final chapter is up on OneManga (the epilouge) ^_^
i approve of the ending.

[Yasu]

The ending wasn't all that bad for the TRC series.

Although, I have to admit that their could have been some more closure with certain characters. Those characters being FWR, Yuuko, Clow, the vampire twins, those at the Royal Palace in Nihon Country, etc.

The names of both Syaoran and Sakura seemed to have kind of cliche. I would have thought that Clamp would have come up with some better names for Syaoran and Sakura, but it would seem that Clamp either changed their real names or planned on using this name from the very beginning.

Wouldn't you have wished for Clamp to have at least explained why they gave Sakura and Syaoran the name's Tsubasa.

I originally thought that Clamp gave Syaoran and Sakura the name Tsubasa because of the fact that they both needed wings in order to travel from one dimension to another dimension. In other words, the name Tsubasa represents the bird's ability to travel from one location to another. And both Syaoran and Sakura are destined to always be travelling from one location to another location, until they can come up with another price that will make sure to fulfill the price they are currently paying as the means for ending the fight with FWR.

[matty543]

thankgod there was an epiloge i cant wait for them to show up at Watanukis shop ^^

[T-6000]

Remember the ending of the awful Super Mario Brothers storyline? The ending of Tsubasa Chronicle kinda felt like that, where one plotline is resolved but ends just as another plotline starts up, leaving a large gap of a cliffhanger. I had really hoped that Tsubasa Chronicle would avoid a chiffhanger ending. I swear, cliffhanger endings are becoming more and more popular, even in games today, it's really annoying. Despite the annoying cliffhanger ending, and I don't care what anyone says, I think Tsubasa Chronicle was one of the better Manga series in recent years. But still, I can't help that with the cliffhanger ending there could be room for a sequel series. Though it's something Clamp has never really done before (not that I know of, at least) and I don't think they will anytime soon. Strange that Kurogane, Syaoran, and Fai pay a visit to Kobato in episode 20 of the Anime series, when they are on their quest to find a way to restore the bodies of SYaorans' parents (which takes place after the end of the Manga series of Tsubasa Chronicle).