The new world for Scanlation

[mab]

Hi all :D

nowadays we notice alot alot of scanlators out there from freelancers to groups that is cool but there is always something that bother me what is that ok here it is

how many scans do u see for naruto alone everyweek well around 10 right and most of them have differet quailty some are good quailty in cleaning area and some the other way around in the typeseting. so u and me wish to have always good quality or more to say less repatative work like only 2-3 scans of naruto a week because of the idea i will mention later on.

of course this idea i hope you guys agree with me it will help increase the scans out there for different mangas since there is alot alot of good manga out there but no one doing it because they do mangas which already alot of groups doing why because he love it and want to help doing it but the group who done it well not let him doing it since he is not a part of the group what the soluation ok here it is :D

we open a thread for any manga and let anyone who wanna help help and that will let alot of ppl to forget doing the manga alone and come help since it is easier for them.

how that works u say well here is an example:

FMA new chapter just appear so someone open a thread with the raw and say if u wanna help in cleaning or typeseting.

so some guys comes and said ok i will do 1-5 typeset and other say somehting similer but this time cleaning like this until all pages are taken.

of course if ppl agree to this idea we can say something like ok this guy is a good cleaner so let him be the cleaner and other good at typeseting and so on.

any ideas if this is bad or good please share it with me and yea i am bad at english so if u dont understand just say so and i will try to explain better but i will open a thread soon about this idea and let anyone who wanna help helps and of course there will be some ppl who mange this to let the quality good :D like for typeseting sumbit PSD files to let the guy or ppl in charge fix any problem but no worries ur help will sure be credited at the end :D.

ok now time for Discussion :DotheMonkey:

[kenjimaru]

I hope people including scanlators respond because is good idea but like i say in the similar thread in staff section this is a good idea but not new. Veni-sama already do this before and he stop to concentrate on training those that we already had.

Right now you can start things off by cleaning a chapter and posting it in the correct forum and see what happens. May take time to catch on or may be not- but try that.

[mab]

i will try to open one but i need to hear the respones first since this will not work without ppl given some ideas :D

say whatever u want venicia said it or not i dont care :p

let's see what will happen since i got nothing to lose just an idea :D

[rengwei]

that is definitely agreeable mab
but to make the scanlators come together to produce a good quality scan....that is quite an ambition u have there mab XD
maybe it will really work, just that you're trying in the wrong place?
maybe u should talk about your idea to ppl of MH, and see what they think of this
after all, MH is much more of a gathering of scanlators rather than FH

[kenjimaru]

i will try to open one but i need to hear the respones first since this will not work without ppl given some ideas :D

say whatever u want venicia said it or not i dont care :p

let's see what will happen since i got nothing to lose just an idea :Di say that i hope scanlators respond. did u not understand that or u just joking around? did i tell you not to do it? or that is been done before so try and see what happens.

[mab]

rengwei it is already in MH :D

but we need to see what will happen :D

although MH looks kinda down lately

[forgottenme]

i had a pretty mad idea about that sort of thing but not quite i was more think of revolutionizing the manga scanlation world it was simple but a huge pain in the butt to actually do and most scanlators probably would disagree


my little idea was to abandon having all these little groups aaand

join like 10 or so groups together in to one group where everyone works in coordination each other with shall we say uh separate divisions for different mangas and some management or mod level people at the top keeping it all organized and helping out along the way also responsible for website and distro

so one group can effectively get out more chapters at a faster pace and if like 5 of the mega groups form that could be like chapters of like 50 different manga a week instead of like 15 of this series20 of this and 10 of this

and having all these scnlators in contact with each other would be simpler to keep everyone updated the releases constant and better quality due to getting all best of the scanlatoin world together

anyone like my idea or have problems with it issues that could help bring this to be??

[real0st]

i had a pretty mad idea about that sort of thing but not quite i was more think of revolutionizing the manga scanlation world it was simple but a huge pain in the butt to actually do and most scanlators probably would disagree


my little idea was to abandon having all these little groups aaand

join like 10 or so groups together in to one group where everyone works in coordination each other with shall we say uh separate divisions for different mangas and some management or mod level people at the top keeping it all organized and helping out along the way also responsible for website and distro

so one group can effectively get out more chapters at a faster pace and if like 5 of the mega groups form that could be like chapters of like 50 different manga a week instead of like 15 of this series20 of this and 10 of this

and having all these scnlators in contact with each other would be simpler to keep everyone updated the releases constant and better quality due to getting all best of the scanlatoin world together

anyone like my idea or have problems with it issues that could help bring this to be??

I'm gonna be honest, I use to agree with this idea like...1-2 years ago. But as I look at some conversations amongst people at a bunch of scanlation forums, well I've learned that...HUMANS ARE EVIL! XP

What I mean is that a merge will not work because:
1) everyone has different standards. Which creates arguments
2) level of how well someone cleans/typsets/translates. Some people put work into their editting, while some people just press 3 keys and call it a good clean
3) everyone wants to be a leader. If groups were to merge, they'll be like "you do this" and someone will go "you can't tell him what to do, you weren't the leader of him before". Or some scenario like that
4) expectations to reach standards/deadlines. People sometimes get lazy and the group dies. That person may quit scanlating forever or start a new group (like Franky-House) and start a new team.
5) too many people to manage. Plus now with the realization of usefulness of java-scripts (I heard a guy named manyou first introduced it. I don't remember where I heard it from) you could be a successful one man scanlator.

scanlating to me is no longer a fan-based work. Before when Franky-House was at it's prime, there were respectable groups who actually put work into their scanlating, which made me think these people will have futures in the graphics design world. But it's become a competition with accusations and stealing. I for one never really cared about quality/speed, I just care about standing out above everyone else. But....I guess that's how scanlating has changed from like...1-2 years ago...

[rengwei]

yep definitely too many people to manage is one problem....
we are all doing online voluntary work here, with no obligations whatsoever so one can just suddenly disappear if he feels like it........you'll need a super good leader/manager to keep everything going smoothly

although it may be sensible for a manga fan to think, let's combine and make a HQ chapter instead of many lq/mq chapters......some scanlators took pride in winning these fictitious "competitions" so by combining scanlation groups, you're actually taking away their source of motivation.

[emer]

It´s not a bad idea at all, good for getting the interest for scanlating in aspiring photoshopers up : D

Then the thing about management...That´s the hardest part. Either you have really strict control, deadline and such. Or just an easy-going style, like "finished when done"-way.

Good idea ^^

[The_Vogfather]

so basicly you want to set up a scanlator federation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation)

[emer]

The word "federation" reminds me of Star Wars...I´m such a geek.
Getting people together and making it a federation is close to creatign a new group as well... There isn´t any real practical difference from this federation and a "normal" group.

There´s still soem that cleans and some that typesets (and if really advanced) some quality checkers and/or proofreaders, but now as freelancing. Amirite?

[Isochroma]

Your site doesn't work in my IE 6 (1/3 of all web clients) under WinXP, I can't login. Even worse, when I use Firefox 2.0 to log in, there's still some stupid 'welcome unregistered' crap on the front page. fix it.

[Reccax626]

You do know, the bazillion of groups that scanlate naruto and bleach are just a bunch of fanboys that know almost absolutely nothing about editing. Do you really want them to butcher other mangas too?

[mab]

Your site doesn't work in my IE 6 (1/3 of all web clients) under WinXP, I can't login. Even worse, when I use Firefox 2.0 to log in, there's still some stupid 'welcome unregistered' crap on the front page. fix it.
wow strong words there but we will do ^_^

[makhan]

Your site doesn't work in my IE 6 (1/3 of all web clients) under WinXP, I can't login. Even worse, when I use Firefox 2.0 to log in, there's still some stupid 'welcome unregistered' crap on the front page. fix it.
that's not really our, fault, but Microsoft's :p
their web browser doesn't fulfill any standards -_-'

[Alvina]

:Hoppity_Hop: hi

[mab]

^^^

WOW HI to you ^^

[spaz]

I personally hate working with other people when I work on a manga. I like to clean and typeset my stuff by myself than I know that it will be up to my quality standards and I don't have to worry about yelling at anyone.

And competition is just retarded. I hate it when one group comes in and just takes a project away from another group that is working at a very nice pace and is putting out some really decent quality scanlations... Now when someone does that than its obvious they just want to piss the other group off and get more people to there scans and crap.