Donations!!! Donations!!! Donations!!! [Archive]

venicia777

10-07-2007, 02:45 PM

Time For Donations
i had decided from the beginning that fans were not going to be taxed with the duty of giving donations or paying to run the forum. Not at all I said. And that all bills for such purposes will be footed by me or the FH Pirate team (who are mostly students) if needed. But how fast things change!!!! Certain conditions below have resulted in making this thread.
Cause 01
The first and most important reason is this. The FH site has ballooned to an extent i didnt expect it to reach in just about 7-8 weeks of going public. The website now has quite a number of members and soo many visitors on release days that it is amazing. But do you know the results of this?Just in a couple of weeks about a hundred thousand manga fans came to grace the forum, to the extent that we exceeded our bandwidth quota. i had to upgrade server accounts and set up private agreements with the current host just to allow us to run. And just yesterday i got a comment from our host that we almost crashed the server.
yup, this is what happens when we switch from doing One Piece HQ releases to about 10 other different series. This is a good-bad thing. More fans here getting what they want - yay but that means more financial burden to maintain the site.
Cause 02
As stated in the first paragraph, initially fans were just to come here and have fun, no obligations to pay anything. However, any amount of help from forum members and staff to defray some of the costs for running the site wasnt going to be rejected at all. Thus the decision was made to use downloads instead. Megaupload has a download points system that rewarded a 100,000 points with cash. So we decided to use MU as the first download link to all our releases and then add the other mirrors later.But No!!!, apparently many fans didnt care about this at all. From the webmaster, i got fans making statements like these: "this is shit - where are the downnloads",
"I need my downloads, why cant you guys just do that"
"Megaupload is crap-tastic, change it"
And some of these complaints were even made by scanlators i know of. Very inconsiderate isnt it? But at the same time you cant blame people for saying what the want.
Conclusion:
So, the end result of the posts made above is this: this has become like the barter system of the ancients- you help us we help you. Upon putting all options into perspective and considering some of the salient suggestions received, we are setting up a Donations System for fans and all members to contribute.

Remember, this is not to extort money from you nor to line our pockets with cash. But to specifically help us pay for running the forum for Everyones enjoyment. Hopefully, within the next year we get our own server and someone that can professionally avail himself in running and maintaining this forum on it.

makhan

10-07-2007, 04:18 PM

There is one thing I'm thinking of, you could use to gain some money - advertisements, but shown only to unregistered people. Mangahelpers is using them and I think it's a good idea. If you don't like popups you just need to register and they will be gone :)

Fiendish_Imp

10-07-2007, 04:32 PM

haha, it quite a good/bad thing. Were a pretty popular group, but it means more money. This was probably going have to be initiated eventually. But i'm pretty sure we will still need some adds. Makhan's idea where only unregistered see them is a pretty good idea.

B-One

10-07-2007, 04:49 PM

I don't mind having them if it can keep this awesome site alive...:3

Faiakin

10-07-2007, 05:19 PM

Donations are definately a good way to start. I like Makhan's idea of adds to unregistered users. It wouldn't really change anything for most of our users and it would bring in a little extra cash.

mab

10-07-2007, 06:30 PM

what about make anyone who wants our scans to register in the fourm and with that we will have more users which make other sites wants to put advertise of their site here and that make money i think right???

and make paypal accounts which if anyone want to donations make it and i think a lot of people will i hope

real0st

10-08-2007, 12:10 AM

Well, this may seem a bit mean...but what about the idea of pruning. Pruning in forum terms is getting rid of inactive users/people who don't post. This other forum I'm a part of prunes inactive users/non-posters to save bandwidth and get rid of leechers who don't contribute (ex: say thanks, give suggestions, etc). We could definitely get a lot more active users and less lazy leechers. But this is just a suggestions, and I'm not 100% sure if this reduces bandwidth usage. I've been going through a couple users and if I had to take a guess, only 90% of them have 0 posts.

makhan

10-08-2007, 12:19 AM

@real0st:
I don't think it's a good idea. It doesn't save much bandwidth and it's kind of unpleasant :/ I hate forums where I have to post 20 posts to access the releases section. And pruning sounds even worse. Donations and advertising for unregistered users should be enough. If it won't, we will think then.

real0st

10-08-2007, 03:22 AM

Angelz

10-08-2007, 05:20 AM

it seems a lot of people agrees with makhan's idea. I don't think people that comes here would really mind advertisement - it's not really that bothersome really. And if does bother them they can just become a member - which would definitely benefit this site.

The prune idea - if it were to be use than Franky House Site will loose 90% of its member -_-;

So, I have to go against it.

I actually meant for a way to get people active and at least drop a Hi/Thanks/Good job/Comments rather than just come and just download.
That's why I want the thank you hack. 90% of the member here is soo lazy that find typing a single thank you sentesce is a bothersome activites. If we have the thank you hack it'll be only one click and the page does not have to reload unlike when you post a reply.

B-One

10-08-2007, 05:40 AM

Yeah thank you hack. would help I agree^^.

Angelz

10-08-2007, 02:29 PM

I would like to suggest something.

I've been hearing a lot of comments that people are finding it hard to navigate themselves on this site. I have to say that I understand their feelings very well; when I first came here my first opinion would be there are links everywhere and it took me quite a long time to get use to it.

But I came to stay, most people just came to drop by. This type of people - they get frustrated easily if they are not able to find the download links. But this are the people [I think] that keeps the site going and unconsciously promote the site]

My suggestion:

Create a new layout that is more user friendly. [http://www.dgraymananime.com/forums/ check this forum-I really like the layout and it is very easy to navigate even for a first-timer]
link the people to the release page of each chapter release instead of linking them to the homepage. Eg: the release page of Tsubasa Chronicles chapter XXX
create a front page that contains all the link to the release chapters [something like what Mangashare did but I don't like how you can only view some of the new chapters. In my opinion you should be able to view all]

Those are the only thing that I can think off right now. Will try to think of some more suggestion.

real0st

10-08-2007, 02:36 PM

Angelz

10-08-2007, 02:49 PM

Ooo...nice idea. Throw my ideas away and substitute it with yours.. Because I am one of those people who sometimes have problems navigating through the forums still. But if we do link like the front page to the new chapters like Max7 does with theirs, it will require at least one person on at all times to update the front page when a new scanlation comes out.

oh, real0st, I thought I was the only one who is a staff and is still having trouble navigating around the site :hug:

Well, updating the front page would not really be a problem since we are going to have 4 global moderators and 4 black OP. I think 8 people are enough to update the threads constantly - especially since kenjimaru and bone are online here almost all their waking hours :p

ahehehe....

Fiendish_Imp

10-08-2007, 03:27 PM

Yah, i see people complaining a bunch about not beign able to find the releases, so something to make that easier would probably be good.

and Ichiha (B), isnt a cipher pol or yonkou, hes a shichibukai like me, and i don't think we would have the ability to edit front page. although i'm sure we would be up for it. haha.

The other thing is something similar to MH new releases box they have, becuase I remeber that was always super useful when i leeched at MH.

Mooncrow

10-08-2007, 03:34 PM

I agree that the front page thing wouldn't be a big deal to keep up with, and would make things a lot easier.

B-One

10-08-2007, 05:40 PM

Editing the front page or just add a new release bar like: http://www.onemanga.com/
And yeah, I'm here quite a lot I would be able to update this but I'm no a yonkou or cipher pol, just a shichibukai...lol just a shichibukai XD...seems like nothingXD

Azhurai

10-08-2007, 07:56 PM

I'm not too active myself so i don't have the right to say anything in this forum actually.. but i agree with makhan with his idea, you can rise the advertisements' price(coz more people means higher prices) and I personally don't think this donations forum you'll create will bother anybody especially those non members n leechers as long as you don't create it too big(you know wht i mean) and if somebody come to this thread n mad for this donations thread then let him out from this website n tell him him it's a NON-FORCED donations...It's not like you have to pay for DL the mangas from here..
One more thing, maybe you can say to people that if we donate, it'll make the scanlators spirit goes up and you guys'll scan ASAP right after the raw comes out, the bigger the donations then more mangas you'll scanlated(if the bandwidth problem already solved)..
I think if you say it like that then no people will get mad/offended...
Anyway, sry for talking too much for such a non-too active user but still I visit franky at least 5/6 times a month(too many exams, assignments and group work T_T)

makhan

10-08-2007, 08:21 PM

Yeah, I had a feeling someone might not agree with this idea. But I'm not sure if the donation news will get to some people, since I assume not everyone who visits the site bothers reading the news. I actually meant for a way to get people active and at least drop a Hi/Thanks/Good job/Comments rather than just come and just download. So that way maybe they can hear about the news of some things and maybe some of those people might actually donate something.
We can send a PM to everyone.

That's why I want the thank you hack. 90% of the member here is soo lazy that find typing a single thank you sentesce is a bothersome activites. If we have the thank you hack it'll be only one click and the page does not have to reload unlike when you post a reply.
Yes, I like it too, I PMed Venicia about it, but she didn't respond (maybe she missed it, I added it as ps).

I've been hearing a lot of comments that people are finding it hard to navigate themselves on this site. I have to say that I understand their feelings very well; when I first came here my first opinion would be there are links everywhere and it took me quite a long time to get use to it.
Yes, I also think it's unfriendly to users. MH's is much better.

But if we do link like the front page to the new chapters like Max7 does with theirs, it will require at least one person on at all times to update the front page when a new scanlation comes out.
It can be done by a script, as well as automatic updates of R/T/S Archives (it would be convenient to me :p). But is there anyone who can write it?

kenjimaru

10-08-2007, 10:46 PM

Create a new layout that is more user friendly. [http://www.dgraymananime.com/forums/ check this forum-I really like the layout and it is very easy to navigate even for a first-timer]
Do you have any suggestions on what layout you want to see?

link the people to the release page of each chapter release instead of linking them to the homepage. Eg: the release page of Tsubasa Chronicles chapter XXX
I think this already started. Threads like TRC 168 were linked that way.

create a front page that contains all the link to the release chapters [something like what Mangashare did but I don't like how you can only view some of the new chapters. In my opinion you should be able to view all]

which of the release chapters? you talking about all the release chapters in the scanlations section or all releases by Franky House?

Angelz

10-09-2007, 04:00 AM

Hmmm... I'm not sure But if given choice - I would love if this thing are taken into consideration:

the emptry space on each side is widen

the color scheme is change to something a little bit darker - I mean for the main board not or the background something like silver orange and black?

There should be no sub topic in a main topic - I think this is one of the main reason why people get lost on the site

the topics and threads are revised.

there should be a new thread for release and download [it shouldn't be a small topic], under this topic there should be small topic like 'RTS release' / 'Franky House release' [for HQ OP] / 'translation' / 'scanlation' [for FH release and other release] / 'raw' / 'Speedscan workstation' - something like that.

then there should be a new topic for 'your arts and galleries' - 'general art' and 'art submission' should be smaller topic in here and there should be small topic name 'your sig' / 'fanart'.

A whole new topic on Tutorial- under here the small topic are 'become a FH pirate' / 'tutorial on manga scanlating' / 'tutorial for making a sig' / 'the training space' [this is where Typesetting/Cleaning Progress: XXX should go]

'staff lounge' should be in the 'world geverment' thread as a smaller topic [not a sub topic of becoming a FH prate]

'Anime discussion' should be a wholly new topic with smaller topic like - 'bleach', 'naruto'... etc all the famous manga

Well this is all just a suggestion... If you are interested in the idea I can make a rough outline of the new topic and thread system? Nguh?

And I mean all the release chapter not just for Franky House...

B-One

10-09-2007, 04:31 AM

kenjimaru

10-09-2007, 05:10 AM

Well this is all just a suggestion... If you are interested in the idea I can make a rough outline of the new topic and thread system? Nguh?

And I mean all the release chapter not just for Franky House...

this looks like what i have seen on some forums like Narutochaos. So why you not go ahead and post the outline then? Or create a thread for it in the staff lounge?

Faiakin

10-09-2007, 05:21 AM

I agree with Angelz on the new color scheme..but only if scanlators no longer have to be PINK! :Nooooooo:

but while we're at it...why don't we get a new banner to go with the theme. The notebook thingy is..ahhh...kinda cool...but it doesn't really scream "scanlations", "manga", or anything really. Maybe when we're done with the cover page contest we can do a banner one. We have some pretty talented people around here, so I would look forward to seeing what they can come up with. If we have that kind of talent around here, we might as well let everyone know it the second they get on the site.

kenjimaru

10-09-2007, 05:33 AM

I agree with Angelz on the new color scheme..but only if scanlators no longer have to be PINK! :Nooooooo:

Color is not pink color is magenta for scanlators - they look similar LOL!!! so what color suggestion you get?

but while we're at it...why don't we get a new banner to go with the theme. The notebook thingy is..ahhh...kinda cool...but it doesn't really scream "scanlations", "manga", or anything really. Maybe when we're done with the cover page contest we can do a banner one. We have some pretty talented people around here, so I would look forward to seeing what they can come up with. If we have that kind of talent around here, we might as well let everyone know it the second they get on the site.
There is going to be many banner contests - even more than you know. I think most of us know this because veni-sama talk about it some time ago. Before you came so you will get a chance to show your skills - yaaaaaaarrrr!!!

Angelz

10-09-2007, 05:45 AM

Wow great work and thinking Angelz...your ideas are pretty awesome^^. I think that I would be good...but you seem to have forgotten about "my place"...you know "thriller bark" and Arcade... I would appreciate having those in your plan...without those I might actually die XD. Just kiddin

nah, i didn't it was just a rough sketch. I'll post the real rough outline later today... when I've gotten through with my life crisis.

this looks like what i have seen on some forums like Narutochaos. So why you not go ahead and post the outline then? Or create a thread for it in the staff lounge?

ahehehe... I checked out the site - and you're right. it does resemble narutochaos... the front page i mean.... nguh.... any other idea?

I agree with Angelz on the new color scheme..but only if scanlators no longer have to be PINK!

but while we're at it...why don't we get a new banner to go with the theme. The notebook thingy is..ahhh...kinda cool...but it doesn't really scream "scanlations", "manga", or anything really. Maybe when we're done with the cover page contest we can do a banner one. We have some pretty talented people around here, so I would look forward to seeing what they can come up with. If we have that kind of talent around here, we might as well let everyone know it the second they get on the site.

ahahaha.... thank god my color is baby blue and not pink ;P

And I like your idea of the banner contest. We do have some talented people here and we show to people that we have talented people. Hope venicia would consider this idea ^^

Faiakin

10-09-2007, 05:56 AM

so what color suggestion you get?

yeah i know...when you look at all the colors already taken, there aren't many choices left. Let's see there's: Orange, Lime, DarkOrchid, DarkOrange, and a few others. I personally prefer orange just cause its my favorite color, but i'm not the only scanlator out there. venicia has the final say anyways.

note: most comments I make late on mondays should be ignored. I'm usually up for about 20~ish hours and then get a new fixing of heroes...bad combo...i get really crazy after all that...i think its brain overload. didn't help that there was a indians game tonight too >.< but don't worry, after some sleep i'll be back to normal in the morning...if i can sleep

B-One

10-09-2007, 04:52 PM

Green is da best and darkorange / orange is Venicia's color, you can't have it yarrr. You starting a rebellion? XD Wanna take over our King huh?^^

Fiendish_Imp

10-09-2007, 05:35 PM

boo mutiny boo

lol
i'd prefer the FH staff blue, of even global mod light blue, but green is fine.

Faiakin

10-09-2007, 07:38 PM

I thought Venicia's color was red o.O but you're right B-One it is more orange-ish..opps. My comment about the pink (or..ahh...magenta) was more of a joke anyways. i wasn't trying to get the color changed, the real purpose of the post was to mention doing a banner contest. Someone asked my opinion for changes so i mentioned some.

Plus, I wouldn't want Venicia's job anyways...that would mean trying to keep all of you in line :Listen_here:

B-One

10-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Lol I was joking too:p. I understood your post's meaning but had to nag you a little:p

jinytte

10-12-2007, 03:29 AM

I just registered but have been coming here for a while. I ALWAYS use the MU links since I like them so much more than the crappy RS links. (hate rapidshare >_>)

I'm too broke to donate (I owe money rather than having any to spare XD) but maybe you could add the info about downloading from the MU link for every update post?

Something like this:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/337/frankyhousemurx8.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frankyhousemurx8.jpg)

While some people do have problems with MU (some Asian countries have ISP issues I think?) most people that whine and moan about MU just don't want to do the 45 seconds wait... so the reminder that it helps pay for this site might lessen some of the whining.

kenjimaru

10-12-2007, 04:47 AM

Yeah - that is what we do. But people not like it much. Just look at last week's releases. And people still whine.

B-One

10-12-2007, 12:58 PM

whiners-Lurkers should just shut up...man do we do this for a living?...we're not Narutofan, this is commitment... We do it because we love manga...it really is a shame that some doesn't see that...

kenjimaru

10-12-2007, 07:01 PM

yeah, they just want to get downloads. Nothing else. Very inconsiderate, very bad -- people stay up all night. Like last week veni-sama do about 5 chapters while on a business trip. Thats insane.

And yet them greedy insensitive fans say change this change that. S*******

B-One

10-12-2007, 10:10 PM

I completly agree^^.

shirotensaki

10-13-2007, 05:40 AM

Why the hell do people complain about download!? They are FREE! How can you complain about something that is given to you for FREE!? FH isn't obligated to even scan and translate at all but they spend countless hours working on this and you can't even click a few times and write a few letter to read FREE manga!? Inconsiderate jerks... i say bring on the donation if thats what they need, those who support FH will be happy to donate and us mega upload or anything else they use, and those who don't like it can just leave, wait 3-5 years for this manga to hit the us and then pay 10 bucks per volume.

B-One

10-13-2007, 04:03 PM

I love you...lol. Amen

venicia777

10-16-2007, 01:48 PM

Donation system finally set up on all viewable skins. Lets hope everyone can help and chip in from now on.

B-One

10-16-2007, 02:43 PM

I like it, it's beautiful^^.

Fiendish_Imp

10-16-2007, 04:36 PM

Pretty good timing to get that up, right after we had that big HQ OP release

B-One

10-17-2007, 12:06 AM

Yeah.....^^

Rhynri

10-17-2007, 04:07 AM

I have another little idea.

It's likely too difficult to implement, but hey.

Have a little script that sends the first x# of downloads to megaupload when the user clicks on the link, and then after that, automatically redirect them to my server for the file. Hey, it's just neat to think about.... likely never happen.

Another thing to do, is someone could make a front page for my server's frankyhouse directory, instead of the current basic listing. I might get around to it if the ridiculous number of characters per chapter i'm getting in Chinese class ever lets up (that's why I haven't been around).

Now... for the last item on my list

Can i consider myself as having donated? XD

domdom84

10-17-2007, 06:38 AM

Quote:
"Megaupload has a download points system that rewarded a 100,000 points with cash. So we decided to use MU as the first download link to all our releases and then add the other mirrors later."

Gee, didn't know about it before.. I thought MU is a crap! I guess its not +_+

kenjimaru

10-17-2007, 08:57 AM

I have another little idea.

It's likely too difficult to implement, but hey.

Have a little script that sends the first x# of downloads to megaupload when the user clicks on the link, and then after that, automatically redirect them to my server for the file. Hey, it's just neat to think about.... likely never happen.

Another thing to do, is someone could make a front page for my server's frankyhouse directory, instead of the current basic listing. I might get around to it if the ridiculous number of characters per chapter i'm getting in Chinese class ever lets up (that's why I haven't been around).
Nice idea. i like but it be too aggressive- i think.

Now... for the last item on my list

Can i consider myself as having donated? XDHahahahaha - noo- i no see no donation on the donation bar.

But you give (donate) good suggestion.

theraptscallion

11-05-2007, 02:51 PM

makhan

11-05-2007, 07:11 PM

As one of the legions of poor students who double as midnight manga addicts, I have to say that people's unwillingness to use Megaupload is just plain laziness on their part. I think you should just make it so that every download goes through MU. If people want their favorite manga on the day it's released, they should be willing to put up with the 75 seconds it takes to run the MU gauntlet and help you guys at the same time.

No it's not the only reason. In some countries (like in mine) there are limits put on the bandwidth and usually I get the message "Whole bandwidth is reserved for Premium users. Try again in xx hours" or sth like that. So I'm saying no for MU and I'm going to upload to other hosts :p (to MU also of course ;))

Annita

11-28-2007, 08:46 PM

i dont know if its too late to give ideas but hey ...

well, i've been downloading mangas quite long time and recently i saw people up their links into this site: www.usercash.com
the idea is that you still using MU/RS/ whatever host you want, and only link that link to usercash. I tried to download 1 manga using usercash and there're not much advertise, they just open a nearly blank page with link contain your link. Its pretty neat. no spam pop-up and FH can get some cash extra.

well, its all i know about usercash. I dont know if they'll pay for real or not, but if they do, its kinda cool because we still upload to MU host, download from MU, and get some extra $$.

;)

pajtshiabvaj

01-03-2008, 05:19 AM

hmm . . .I have no problem with Mega Upload. Actually I prefer it over rapidshare . But I really think that having ads for those not register would be great. I really like that idea.

nonerdBUTreadsmangaonline

01-03-2008, 04:56 PM

Cant you guys do so not everybody can download on the same day? 3 days and a certain number of peps can download each day, this way u wont get runover by 100.000 angry redeyed bulls.

makhan

01-03-2008, 08:29 PM

we don't want to limit anyone's access to our manga ^_^
let's hope the donations system will do the job, especially since we have some problems with our MU account :/

Rhynri

01-07-2008, 02:03 AM

Now, i kinda skipped over part of the conversation, but another thing that would help bandwidth woes is cutting down on the Avatar and Sig views for unregistered users. Because while the majority of the heavy-sized images seem to be photobucketed or otherwise *nods to B-one, others*, it still adds up. This thread has 2,310 views. From my informal image properties scan, there is something like 100kilobytes of avatars hosted on this server. add to that maybe 50kb of Sig pics. There aren't many varied users in this thread, so lets say the average thread has a combined 200kb of data.

So for each of 2310 views there is 200kb of image data only downloaded. (perhaps more)

Google calc tells us (just put 200kilobytes x 2310 into a google search):

200 kilobytes x 2 310 = 451.171875 megabytes

For one thread. Not counting text, formatting, emotes, [FH LEADER] badges, etc. Perhaps by serving a stripped down version of the forum to non-members we could help lop off a few gb of bandwidth here and there.

Or maybe not. It was just a random idea. The savings may be more or less than i am supposing.

@kenjimaru - i was just joking anyway. I was talking about how I have (donated) over 500gb of bandwidth. XD That's a lot of manga.

lukai

01-07-2008, 02:12 AM

Couldnt you just restrict all areas except for releases and downloads to members only?

rengwei

01-07-2008, 02:57 AM

@lukai i dont really like that idea....see i'm a lurker in other forums as well and if i'm required to register before i can view something, i get pissed and leave ><
anyway like makhan say, we dont wana restrict access to our manga

@Rhynri stripped down version to non-members seem like a good idea....but i think it'll be hard to implement that (not sure...have to ask the webmaster)

B-One

01-07-2008, 06:41 AM

...I'm guilty of having/loving cool sigs/ava but if the cutting it down for non-member can be done, I think that it's a good idea^^.

rengwei

01-31-2008, 02:42 AM

i'm reaaallllllyy wondering....
why does our site get so little donations???
but other sites like mangadownload.net etcetc always meet their goals of $1000++
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just to let u guys our bandwidth usage is increasing like mad and our boss veni-sama has to pay for all that just to keep the forums up...
if you're enjoying our scans and if you can help donate...please do...
every little bit is much appreciated...at least help us reach our monthly goal of $100...

if you cant donate...then pls download from MU link...(dont spam the download though!! :D)

Searss

01-31-2008, 02:48 AM

I mostly download from torrents or megaupload, il download from MU from now on... i dun have paypal account. so thats the least i can do. I cant change my ip adress tho anyone knows how? its adsl and static ip... maybe i coud spam download from MU if i coud change ip every minute lolz jk jk

kenjimaru

01-31-2008, 03:05 AM

if u multiple download they gonna find out eventually so just download normally

rengwei

01-31-2008, 03:09 AM

yea...dont spam download lol...if everyone does that then it'll be suspicious and they'll suspend our account (they suspended our account once before because there were 8GB downloads in a day) so yea dont spam ><

kez

01-31-2008, 05:46 AM

maybe we should be more proactive about soliciting donations?
the donations goal and status on the home page is hiding way down at the bottom in the right hand column right now i think maybe moving it closer to something that is looked at often, like say the links in the left column may get it more attention. also, maybe throw it somewhere in the header or footer on the forum?
i dunno these arent really huge ideas, just something that may help awarness.

ralayolac

01-31-2008, 06:28 AM

I saw a lot of mods and admins in here... so i hope im allowed to express my thoughts as a mere regular member....

1st.. the ads idea that makhan proposes is quite a nice one (google ads for example since every bit counts!!

2nd.. about the donation issue it could help if you guys (Admins, Mods and all of FH staff) put a BIG FLASHY "DONATE" word on your signatures with a hyperlink in it so anyone that reads it and fells like donatin in that same moment... has the easy way to just click the image and be redirected to the donation page...

3rd.. Publiciting your site via signatures on your accounts on other forums that ONLY manage ANIME like (baka wolf for example) since there will be no conflict coz they're 2 complete different areas. (everytime someone asks in BakaWolf about a place to get good manga without it being torrent i recommend them this site) [also i see you are starting your banner contest GOOD LUCK WITH IT]

4th.. (i cant believe that people actually dont wanna download via megaupload... i even installed the shitty megaupload bar in order to have one download per day... but at least i help you guys that way) i enable disable the MU toolbar every time im downloading from there...

and if you happen to have the normal dynamic IP adress... by solely disconecting your modem for about 3 mins and then reconecting it... (and dumping in your computer the list from DNS and others) you get a totally new IP and are able to skip the (MANY HOURS) wait from megaupload and are able to download and ALSO give another point to FH account...

(i bet many things i said you alredy knew... but i felt like helping anyway i could)

GOOD LUCK GUYS

Jukai

02-01-2008, 07:22 PM

I cant scan, edit, or trans at all, but i want to do what i can to help out the people who bring me my favorite entertainment. Thats actually the reason ive joined the site ^_^.

Aside from wanting to say how much i appreciate you, heres what i wanted to say:

FH, you bring us great quality scans, and we all appreciate that. Not everyone can donate, or will donate, but all of your members want to help ya out. So, as long as you continue to scan, every month, i'll donate $100 to the cause, starting today.

Thanks for the hard work; i hope it helps!

Ilesyt

02-01-2008, 10:52 PM

Makhan's Idea is nice, but make them atleast be a bit active like have 25 posts.

Searss

02-01-2008, 11:11 PM

25 posts.... most pple leave right away if they see something like that....im one of them probably.......Janimes also need something like that i went to their site and i saw the requirments and went away right away 7 days later i actually posted the requirered posts and finaly i coud read superior :p

rengwei

02-12-2008, 02:05 PM

FH, you bring us great quality scans, and we all appreciate that. Not everyone can donate, or will donate, but all of your members want to help ya out. So, as long as you continue to scan, every month, i'll donate $100 to the cause, starting today.

these words...they're enough to make me feel my/our efforts are worthy :D:D
thx :D
really appreciate u trying to help but dont do that,
dont give us $100 every month unless you are really rich :D
since money does not come easily after all sigh~
if you can even do $5 a month it's definitely good enough already ;)

anyway things are better than last month i believe, it's not even 2 weeks into feb and we get $60+ :banana:
much better than january where we only have $20+? at the end of the month ><
donors out there, if you're reading this, thx for the donations ;)

Jukai

02-13-2008, 12:58 AM

i wouldnt say im rich but i do make good money ^_^, and hey, for the ppl who bring my favorites of favorites, its nothing really. Anything to help out. Im also trying my hand and typesetting and such, but ive been real busy at work, so with the lack of practice, id say i suck. lol. no problem though, thats what practice is for.

although i must say, i am irked at how my donation hasnt cleared paypal yet. man, they are slow. and getting the txt centered in the bubble? geez.

mab

02-13-2008, 01:19 AM

man jukai that is too much but i like it :D

thanx so much

as long we have fans like u we will never give up "D

Jukai

02-13-2008, 01:37 AM

and i like the small Kong raping Mario's face. its great. truly.

kenjimaru

02-13-2008, 01:52 AM

hey what you want us to do for you? Bake you some FH special cakes :DotheMonkey: Suuuuuuuuuupppppeeeeeeeeerr :hug:
although i must say, i am irked at how my donation hasnt cleared paypal yet. man, they are slow. and getting the txt centered in the bubble? geez. But i think it already clear. Last time before the update it was like $60 donations remaining (when it was $100). Now iz like $150 every month after we move to new server. paypal always take some percentage before they give donation. So if you pay $100 then i think it already clear

B-One

02-13-2008, 03:42 AM

Well, since you pay (like kenji tried to say (maybe I don't get him sometimes XD)), do you have any special request? It's a FH policie that whoever donates, gets their work done (if we can that is^^).

Just wanted to say thank you very much btw^^.

Jukai

02-13-2008, 03:37 PM

thanks for the offer, but i'm fine. i really dont want anything in return, i already appreciate the work you guys do.

B-One

02-14-2008, 12:18 AM

haha... as you wish...^^

If you ever change your mind... we are manga freaks fter all... we always need new suggestions:p

Empire Inc

02-14-2008, 12:55 AM

Hello Jukai,

Just to clarify some things for you.
First of all thanks for your donation, much appreciated.

Now for some tech stuff...
Paypal payments straight from account or c.c , is usually rapid, echecks and other forms can take up to a week to clear.
As far as it registering here, well when someone uses the donation system, a pm is sent to owner to verify donation has been sent, once venicia verifies that it's been cleared and donated, it shows on here.
p.s I also have the link to show who has all donated and can click verify since owner is not present.

Empire Inc

02-14-2008, 01:47 PM

Now, i kinda skipped over part of the conversation, but another thing that would help bandwidth woes is cutting down on the Avatar and Sig views for unregistered users. Because while the majority of the heavy-sized images seem to be photobucketed or otherwise *nods to B-one, others*, it still adds up. This thread has 2,310 views. From my informal image properties scan, there is something like 100kilobytes of avatars hosted on this server. add to that maybe 50kb of Sig pics. There aren't many varied users in this thread, so lets say the average thread has a combined 200kb of data.

So for each of 2310 views there is 200kb of image data only downloaded. (perhaps more)

Google calc tells us (just put 200kilobytes x 2310 into a google search):

200 kilobytes x 2 310 = 451.171875 megabytes

For one thread. Not counting text, formatting, emotes, [FH LEADER] badges, etc. Perhaps by serving a stripped down version of the forum to non-members we could help lop off a few gb of bandwidth here and there.

Hmm,
I understand what you are saying here somewhat. I agree with some of the sigs that take up 1/2 pages, but actually those are saved outside of the server... meaning that sigs aren't doing anything to the bandwidth since they are hosted through another server. So when sigs and avatars are uploaded through imageshack, photobucket... we actually running off thier bandwidth.
:p

B-One

02-14-2008, 06:56 PM

yay, whore them off:p

Jukai

02-14-2008, 07:14 PM