bloodline limits

[auggiedoggie14]

So far in the story we know that there are bloodline limits or kekkei genkai. To pursue this kekkei genkai into an even further depth; Haku can use two elements (wind) and (water) to create a kekkei genkai ICE. also tenzou can use (earth) and (water) to create a wood element ninjutsu. Supposedly using two element ninjutsus at the same time is impossible without a kekkei genkai? My question to you all is if naruto learns his other element then what is stopping him from creating a shadow doppleganger and while his real body does his second element his clone does his wind element and they combine them to create a jutsu? (he has the concept of this down already because of his rasengan practice and he has already devoloped his element jutsu by his practice with kakashi and tenzou) So all-in-all whos to say that naruto cant recreate a kekkei genkai? or any other jounin who can use shadow dopplegangers?

[SOSAnimeBoy]

...shadow dopplegangers...
OMIGOSH... please... stop... using that name. Shadow clone or Kage Bunshin is the preferred nomenclature.

[n3xus]

it doesn't matter the meaning is the same

[auggiedoggie14]

Thank you for your concern about the nomenclature but if it is not preferable then i guess im not either! Hey somebodies got to be a rebble anyways! I WOULD SERIOUSLY APPRECIATE SOMEONE ACTUALLY REPLYING TO THIS BECAUSE OF ITS CONTENT NOT ABOUT SHADOW DOPPLEGANGERS!

THANK YOU,
AUGGIE

[SOSAnimeBoy]

WHOA LOL... I was just saying... didn't mean any harm. Dopplegangers just sounds so cheesy. ;)

[SoblinZ]

I like the word "Doppelganger". I sounds so ___________ .. xD

[auggiedoggie14]

No harm no foul right. BUT ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE! The title is called bloodline limits not discuss shadow doppleganger nomenclature!:skywalker:

[Sailormeteor]

Wow...everyone just put on boxing gloves and got off the intended topic then it just died...

From what i understand, one does not have to have a kekkei genkai to control 2 elements. Yamada and Haku had a special mix and ability with theirs I would assume. Yamada just told Naruto that jounins can use them but they really have to train. Having the special ability just makes it easier. The training to use 2 elements is probably just so difficult that most don't bother. (This was mentioned in this weeks filler on the anime, but it makes sense. I don't remember if the conversation happend in the manga..I'll have to re-read some.)

What other elemental do you think Naruto would use? :target:

[DucksMcteeth]

Hm, didn't naruto use a water jutsu in the Asuma's death arc? With water and Wind, he might be quite capable to perform a bloodline limit. Yamato even said he justs melds the two elements by separating each one to a designated hand, then combining the two. I don't think it would be necessary for Naruto to utilize a shadow clone for something that only requires that many specifications.

However, he has an advantage over many shinobi. His sheer amount of chakra not only allows him to do amazing feats with shadow clones (ie. training), but may also lend him a helping hand on acquiring more than just two elemental chakras. He can train similarily to the way he awakened his Wind element for the others aswell. What takes a jounin several years to control two, Naruto might have all five under his power by then. Add the multiple hands he can spawn grazi Kage Bunshin, and he might have an unlimited bloodline limit!

All of Naruto's benefits have arisen from his Shadow Dopplegangers, one way or another.

[n3xus]

more like his benefits come from the 9 tails, which confers upon him massive amounts of chakra which allow him to maintain his shadow clones in battle.

[DucksMcteeth]

more like his benefits come from the 9 tails, which confers upon him massive amounts of chakra which allow him to maintain his shadow clones in battle.

Well, you can look at it that way... or you could see it my way. :Jump_Roll:

Naruto is given a gift from the Demon Fox, that much is for sure, but it is his own power which has kept it from taking him over. It's his blue chakra which fends of the Demon's red chakra, both having massive amounts on each side. Seeing how Naruto is able to prevent succuming to it proves his power. I think Kakashi said something like that once anyways. (^A^)

Anyways, I'm very talkative right now. This whole "Red VS Blue" thing the mangaka has going on is, in my opinion, one of the stronger themes in the story. I'm sure the post time-skip era for Naruto is going to resolve this long battle, hopefully opening up a plot mix for yet another time-skip.

[Sailormeteor]

NOOOO no more time skip! Maybe a slight one to round up the ending, but even Naruto can't go on forever. There's no reason to believe that there would be much more after the Konoha attack Sasuke-tachi is planning.

I see Konoha attack-arc, Sasuke vs Naruto Rematch -arc, Finishing the Akatsuki-arc. And I see that taking waaaaaay too long as it is.

[DucksMcteeth]

NOOOO no more time skip! Maybe a slight one to round up the ending, but even Naruto can't go on forever. There's no reason to believe that there would be much more after the Konoha attack Sasuke-tachi is planning.

I see Konoha attack-arc, Sasuke vs Naruto Rematch -arc, Finishing the Akatsuki-arc. And I see that taking waaaaaay too long as it is.
I agree fully about the no-more-time-skip thing. I was just meaning one to finish off the series, where we see a Naruto clad in his orange flame cape and 4th Hokage hair in some final climactic battle against Sauske/ any villian dominant to the series. Cause seriously, that would give me a nice tingling sensation. ^_^

[Sailormeteor]

I agree fully about the no-more-time-skip thing. I was just meaning one to finish off the series, where we see a Naruto clad in his orange flame cape and 4th Hokage hair in some final climactic battle against Sauske/ any villian dominant to the series. Cause seriously, that would give me a nice tingling sensation. ^_^

Yes, that would be awesome but I doubt that would happen. Naruto and Sasuke are going to finish things at this age. Either Sasuke is going to get his selfish crap spew head out of his ass or he's going to die. :skywalker:

[n3xus]

Yes, that would be awesome but I doubt that would happen. Naruto and Sasuke are going to finish things at this age. Either Sasuke is going to get his selfish crap spew head out of his ass or he's going to die. :skywalker:

amen to that. sasuke has distracted much of the series away from naruto. that selfish emo kid.

[andreasfr]

that selfish emo kid.

may I remind you that this "emo kid" has saved narutos life multiple times. How dare you insult one of the few remaining uchiha clan members?!
but yea, i agree, he is selfish at the moment :/

anyway, about the kekkei genkai...i think i know what would look awsome on naruto...
FIRE
First of all, have you seen all the pics of Minato(4:th)...always with the white cloak and with fire at the base, indikating hes much white(wind) and alittle red(fire)
thus his son, Naruto(yes, Naruto is the 4:th's son for all of you who didnt know) has a very high possibility of having the same elements, Wind and Fire.
As we all know, Wind and Fire does mix to create well huge fire...how awsome wouldnt it be if naruto managed to mix his Wind enforced rasengan with fire?

well thats just me...^^
back to the top...Sasuke is NOT emo, hes just depressed..xP

[andreasfr]

Youre probobly wondering y I would pos a reply directly after my own...well its becouse i didnt have these awsome signatures^^

[modoken]

First off, back on topic. Secondly, kekei genkai are not just elemental. For example, byakugan, and of course sharingan. One does not make bloodline limits, one ha them. The limit is defined by having your eyes do something allowing you to use a special ability innately. To finish off this post, Sasuke is super emo, and annoys me so much.

[andreasfr]

sauske is not emo...

blablabla, bloodline limits dont all have to do with eye stuff either...but its true that you are born with them.

[Mario]

i agree with you andreasfr, bloodlines limit isn't just eye jutsu like sharingang or something.

Like kiba he has no eye jutsu, and he does have bloodline limits.

And Sasuke, what would i say hmm...yeah thanks to him naruto wouldn't be training as hard as right now....and like the movie on shippuuden 2 they will help each other. Tho i don't like him much :P.

[andreasfr]

Kiba? he dosent have a BL-Limit :/
did you mean Haku? or that bonehead guy :P ?

I dont like him either but i dont dislike him :S
I guess i nothing him^^ tho you gotta admitt, hes been thru som scary and horrid crap :(

[SOSAnimeBoy]

As we all know, Wind and Fire does mix to create well huge fire...how awsome wouldnt it be if naruto managed to mix his Wind enforced rasengan with fire?
OMFG... Naruto would kill himself in a gigantic explosion. I can totally see that happening. LMAO

[andreasfr]

yea, i know, imagine Kakashi telling him to practise -.-" :P

haha, of Wind and fire rasengan with Sage chakra :S Wtf, Naruto the A-Bomb xP

[Mario]

how in the world would he use fire jutsu??

[andreasfr]

read my post on the previous page...

[Mario]

well if wind and fire is fused then it will gigantic fire and burn himself

[andreasfr]

yup, and thats whats so funny

[ablrules]

I was under the impression that a bloodline limit doesn't have to do with being able to use different elements, but being able to combine them

[andreasfr]

yea, thats precily what it is, and in some cases you can do wierd stuff w/ your body too

[Jamfl]

Isn't it more genetics? Hence bloodline. Because only certain clans can do it. Its a genetic mutation in the clan. Because Sasuke has fire and lighting elements but he can't use that as a bloodlimit. And the bone guy. Can't remember his name but his bloodlimit was create more bone mass to use as weapons etc.

[andreasfr]

yea i know, but its not even sure that naruto has a BL, but im under the impreccion that he has fire and win natured chakra, and since he uses Kake bushins as his signature move he might be able to combine the two abd use it as a BL...

[Znail]

I think its a decent chance that something along the line of bloodline is coming up in the future as we have been told who his father is and the name of his mother. She seemed to have been special too.

[SOSAnimeBoy]

yea i know, but its not even sure that naruto has a BL, but im under the impreccion that he has fire and win natured chakra, and since he uses Kake bushins as his signature move he might be able to combine the two abd use it as a BL...
Wow... I can totally see Kage Bunshin + Wind + Fire = Clones that explode like Deidara's techniques.

[gigashamon]

ah, like that thunder bunshin kakashi used? or itachi used, the ones that blows up?

what was it called?

[andreasfr]

Raiton: Bushin no jutsu
Lightning clone

anyway, i dont think its possible to combine 2 elements into a clone if not by BL...
i do however wish to see a KatonBushin, FireClone ^^

[Znail]

Kakashi have used water clones too and Yamato uses wood clones, so its probobly possible to do a <any element> clone.

[andreasfr]

yea, but kakashi stole it from Zabusa, and Yamato has a BL so he can use it couse of that, i dont think you can combine elements to make a bushin without having a BL...

[Znail]

Kakashi cant copy blood line powers, he said so himself. I dont think Zabusa had any bloodline limit either. He only used normal water stuff and other hidden mist ninjas have used the same stuff he used later too, including the water clones.

[andreasfr]

Bushins can be made out of any element, is that your point??
we already know that...

[Mario]

yea, but kakashi stole it from Zabusa, and Yamato has a BL so he can use it couse of that, i dont think you can combine elements to make a bushin without having a BL...

why?? you can do that without a BL.

[andreasfr]

show me proof...

[Aerosmith]

I dont want to

[andreasfr]

stfu, you dont know anything about what we're talking about..

[Aerosmith]

Of course I know so stop spamping.

[andreasfr]

stfu or ill kick your ass...

[Aerosmith]

Ok sry, ,

[andreasfr]

i said stfu... and now i beat you...

[Aerosmith]

I sed sry cant u red=

[Mario]

Stop spamming you andres

[andreasfr]

okok, im sprry i lost my temper... were we're we?

[SOSAnimeBoy]

Will both of you just SHUT UP?

[andreasfr]

he started it...
he dosent even read manga and just does that stuff to anoy me...

[DucksMcteeth]

I'm pretty sure that ,supposedly, trying to combine elemental jutsus is so hard that it is called your bloodline limit by others if you are able to mix them...

At least, I thought that was what Yamato's power is said to be...