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gdperrin
04-21-2008, 05:35 AM
Everything realted to ppl involved in tenshi (angel) activities.
any info about them experiences or even you being one
You can make your way here by posting about stuff related to angels, manga that has angel related stuff (yes, even angel densetsu lol ^^), angel anime, not the series angel though there is a thread for that.
And of course pics about angels... both Deman (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/member.php?u=9533) and Yami (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/member.php?u=7888) have in their profiles angel`s albums...... keep it up^^ (just click their names to check on what i said)

Im gonna add a new category.... which is Honorary wanna be tenshi, for those who posted in this thread but never asked to be a tenshi..... as soon as u post saying u wanna be a tenshi u will gain the first status ^^
Main boss: Kami-sama
Kami head Tenshi council
-gdperrin
-yami_no_tenshi1563
-DarkBlood

Main Tenshi
-Scorched

Tenshi
-DemanHunter
-Aphelion
-Lunarchaos
-starwarsdude

wanna be tenshi
-Saku
-joaotwix
-Hana
-Scorpio Moon (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/member.php?u=13670)

honorary wanna be tenshi
name and number of posts ^^
-Ilesyt 10
-Peku 5
-dancu 4
-drageoon 2
-Anon 1
-moonster x 1
-the_follower_89


youll start from bottom to top. its not that hard give info about angels and move up
http://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/694949_22a.jpghttp://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/697507_6f3.jpghttp://static.pici.se/pictures/lpCzrgPNi.jpghttp://static.pici.se/pictures/JQZJLGeRc.jpghttp://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/697756_9bd.jpghttp://static.pici.se/pictures/xeXZaRfPY.jpghttp://www.di.unipi.it/%7Ecoppola/pix/alita1.jpghttp://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm79/gdperrin/tenshitest.pnghttp://static.pici.se/pictures/PUKcpRPHH.jpghttp://static.pici.se/pictures/ULbXlLviL.jpg
http://www.lunaregina.com/wallpapers/2005/wall75.jpg http://xarleen.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/angel-manga.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8208/tekken1kr6.jpg
http://static.pici.se/pictures/QswPYaGOa.jpg

This are the pics that had been posted all along this thread

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 05:36 AM
haha you really made one...

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 05:37 AM
of course angels deserve their space to express themselves.... even sadistic one lol ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 05:39 AM
Haha kinda ironic sadistic angel

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 05:46 AM
we should keep the spam here to a minimum until we find more tenshis around

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 05:47 AM
Yup I agree

Lunarchaos
04-21-2008, 05:59 AM
o.O wanna be meh guess that'll work seeings as how I don't even have a sig yet.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:01 AM
haha it should also have the tenshi FC link

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 06:03 AM
send him the pm i sent you already

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:04 AM
haha more members yay!

Lunarchaos
04-21-2008, 06:11 AM
Yea did that now I just need to make an actual sig.

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 06:12 AM
well thats a start lunar dont worry

Scorched
04-21-2008, 06:27 AM
I have been recruited by Yami, hence I am posting here to report to duty. (winged salute)

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 06:29 AM
as for now you are oficially recognized as a wanna be tenshi

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:29 AM
Haha thanks for reporting (salute) you'll be a member shortly

Scorched
04-21-2008, 06:55 AM
All shall fear me and despair...... Just kidding I am good really, I am...

Happy to have been recruited.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:56 AM
Haha that's fine I'm even a sadist angel haha

DemanHunter
04-21-2008, 04:17 PM
Ggggggg nice one, so let me begin then ^^


All angels are something pure, not necessarily pure in a good way, but mostly that is how we see them.
Pure and eternal.
This is how a normal angle looks:
http://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/694949_22a.jpg

Angel ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel)

In written records the earliest concept of an angel as a supernatural being is found in Judaism (c.14th century BCE), and has been adopted by other religions, such as Zoroastrianism (c.5th century BCE), Christianity (c.1st century CE), and Islam (c.7th century CE).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Guido_Reni_031.jpg/401px-Guido_Reni_031.jpg

Etymology

In Hebrew the primary term for the word angel is Malakh, but others are used. Another word used is Hebrew כרוב kruv described as young children, from which the English word cherub is derived. Yet another word for angels in Hebrew is Gil-Gulim, meaning revolving, because they are depicted as wheels with wings, and this is derived in meaning from Gal-Gal, "the rotation of fortune, change" , as in Hebrew ani-gal, (Eng. I have changed).

The word "angel" in English (from Old English engel), French (from Old French angele), German, Spanish, and many other Romance languages are derived from the Latin angelus, itself derived from Koine Greek: άγγελος, angelos, "messenger" (pl. άγγελοι). The ultimate etymology of that word in Greek is uncertain.

Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Jacob-angel.jpg
The Biblical name for angel, מלאך ("mal'ach"), obtained the further signification of "angel" only through the addition of God's name, as "angel of the Lord," or "angel of God" (Zechariah 12:8). Other appellations are "sons of God", (Genesis 6:4; Job 1:6 [R. V. v. 1]) and "the holy ones" (Psalm 89:6-8). Mal'ach can mean any sort of messenger, even a king's emissary. (Genesis 32:4)

According to Jewish interpretation, 'Elohim is only sometimes reserved for the one true God; but at times 'Elohim (powers), bnēi 'Elohim, bnēi Elim (sons of gods) were general terms for beings with great power (e.g. judges). See also: Names of God in Judaism

Angels are referred to as "holy ones" Zechariah 14:5 and "watchers" Daniel 4:13. They are spoken of as the "host of heaven" Deuteronomy 17:3 or of "Adonai" Joshua 5:14.

According to historical scholars, in early Hebrew thought, God appears and speaks directly to individuals (Genesis 3:8, Exodus 12:1). He also intervenes in human affairs, often acting punitively and violently (Genesis 22ff.; Exodus 4:24, 14:4; 2 Samuel 24:1: Psalm 78:31ff.) God's nature reflects the mores of nomadic people. Under the influence of Zoroastrianism and by postexilic prophets and writers, these earlier conceptions were revised to reflect a new theodicy which explained evil without directly implicating God. As the result, God became both more distant and more merciful. Angels and demons replaced him in his encounters with men, and Satan assumed his destructive powers (cf. 2 Samuel 24:1 with 1 Chronicles 21:1).

Appearance

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Statue_at_Metairie_Cemetery.jpg/450px-Statue_at_Metairie_Cemetery.jpg


In the Hebrew Bible, angels often appear to people in the shape of humans of extraordinary beauty, and often are not immediately recognized as angels (Genesis 18:2, Genesis 19:5; Judges 6:17, Judges 8:6; 2 Samuel 29:9). Some fly through the air, some become invisible, sacrifices touched by some are consumed by fire, and some may disappear in sacrificial fire. God, "the Angel of the Lord" appeared in the flames of the thorn bush (Genesis 16:13; Judges 6:21-22; 2 Kings 2:11; Exodus 3:2). They are described as pure and bright as Heaven; consequently, they are said to be formed of fire, and encompassed by light, as the Psalmist said (Psalm 104:4): "He makes winds His messengers, burning fire His ministers." Some verses in the Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical works depict angels wearing blue or red robes but no such reference occurs in the Protestant books.



p.s. I'll go make myself a banner.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:18 PM
LOL thanks for this Deman^^ and this FC is for any angel as in any as long as it looks angelic for you be it an angel then and nice sig I'll try using that when I get enough of the pointers

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:43 PM
By the way Tenshi album in my profile I'll keep on updating

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Hey what does this F.C. do???

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:46 PM
FC of angels

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 06:48 PM
Hmmm??? Oh that's right.... It's suited this club's name.... :tenshi2: :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:48 PM
haha you wanna join?

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 06:50 PM
Can I??????

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Yup anyone can and gd will just approve it tom. when he's online ^^

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Ehh??? How do I join????

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 06:56 PM
Just leave a post that you want to and the album for tenshis is in my profile

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 06:58 PM
What should I type in the post???

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:00 PM
That you want to join

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:01 PM
"I want to join this F.C." is it like this????

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:02 PM
Yup I guess like that or if you want to write something more which is totally up to you

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:02 PM
Then what about the pictures in ur profile????

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:04 PM
Why what's wrong anyone can see it it's for anyone who loves tenshis

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:05 PM
Ohhhh.... Hey can I PM him instead of posting here??? I'm afraid he won't read it.....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:05 PM
He comes here everyday and I'll bug him no worries and I guess you can also do that do whichever you find better for you ^^

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Ohhhh..... It's settled then....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:07 PM
Haha new member yay!

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:33 PM
im here for a little time ill add aphelion. As of now you are a Proud member of tenshi FC
welcome ^^
hi to all the angels here..

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:35 PM
haha yay new member and I made an album already in my profile I'll post the good ones here maybe tom.

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Hi Minna Ore wa Aphelion desu, Yoroshiku!!!!! :ichi:

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 07:38 PM
Lol, where do I sign up? ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:38 PM
Haha tenshi fan club ni youkoso Aphelion!

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:39 PM
nice album yami.... btw should we add DemanHunter to our little tenshi circle... he gave good info about it :D

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:40 PM
Ehm.... Testing..... Testing.....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:42 PM
Yup though ask him first and nice the link is already in your sig Aphelion

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:44 PM
it works fine Aphelion. btw you can also use one of the sigs i made of ridley.
Today i have my torrents working at full and leeching all me bandwith...
so ill probably only gonna work on this thread.

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:46 PM
Hmmm.... Looks like "6" suited it best huh???

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:46 PM
Haha I'll change to tenshi ava and sig tom. so show us too and I'll try adding more pics in the album

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:47 PM
its too big i already have another sig so its just too much.
yami i left a visitor message in your profile. tell me later about it

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:49 PM
haha okay okay and will you be online for long?

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:50 PM
not for too long.... have a lot of stuff to do
i have around 10 minutes left on

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Heh??? Do you must go to work????

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:52 PM
Yup seems liek it and good luck on wotk or anything you're doing gd

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 07:53 PM
i have to change some clothes first and then have to prepare a presentation for uni and then i have to do 3 late papers for uni too xD

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:55 PM
haha good luck with that and working really is a hassle huh?

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 07:56 PM
Wow... I'm glad I'm a High School Student.....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:57 PM
Haha I'm a middle school student though

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 07:58 PM
I were mainly bored so I just swiftly made some IMO crap signature for this FC. :p Hmm, the frame doesn't look so good against white background. >_>
http://pici.se/pictures/lpCzrgPNi.jpg

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 07:59 PM
Haha it's nice and would you like to join or maybe you're planning to make a neko girl FC

gdperrin
04-21-2008, 08:05 PM
Before i go i leave you som info on angels
n Hebrew the primary term for the word angel is Malakh, but others are used. Another word used is Hebrew כרוב kruv described as young children, from which the English word cherub is derived. Yet another word for angels in Hebrew is Gil-Gulim, meaning revolving, because they are depicted as wheels with wings, and this is derived in meaning from Gal-Gal, "the rotation of fortune, change", as in Hebrew ani-gal, (Eng. I have changed).

The word "angel" in English (from Old English engel), French (from Old French angele), German, Spanish, and many other Romance languages are derived from the Latin angelus, itself derived from Koine Greek: άγγελος, angelos, "messenger" (pl. άγγελοι). The ultimate etymology of that word in Greek is uncertain.
(thnx to wikipedia)

and keep up the good work my fellow tenshis

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 08:06 PM
Don't worry gd-sama, we will!!!! :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the info and take care gd

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 08:08 PM
I'll join this FC. ^^ And if anyone wants to, the signature is free to use. Just don't claim to be the one that made it.


Easiest way to get alot of info about angels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel

Aphelion
04-21-2008, 08:09 PM
Yay!!! my Aniki joining Tenshi F.C.!!!! :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the info and sig dark and welcome to the FC

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 08:22 PM
I think I'll keep on making signatures and/or "banners" for this FC. :p

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 08:24 PM
Haha thanks for that then I'm sure the members will appreciate it

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 08:31 PM
Hehe, and I will climb the ranks like never before.
"Evil-Neko-Tenshi" ^^ :nyaa:

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-21-2008, 08:33 PM
Haha maybe I can put sadist angel in my ranks in the future haha and that doesn't sound so bad

DarkBlood
04-21-2008, 08:36 PM
Lol. :p
Oh and btw, I want to be Bokusatsu Tenshi DarkBlood-Sama! :D

DemanHunter
04-21-2008, 08:36 PM
^^ hahah this is cheap ^^ Increasing your Recent Visitors number by making this thing ^^

p.s. Banner takes me a bit more time than I expected. . .

Lunarchaos
04-22-2008, 01:56 AM
So yea yay for another computer crash :bonk:

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 02:20 AM
Hi Lunarchaos!! so you joined Tenshi F.C. too huh?? :D

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:03 AM
yeah he was the first member besides yami and me....
excelent work you too keep it up and youŽll be promoted ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:16 AM
Haha I'm back here and Deman were you referring to me but well maybe I can post the pics herer too I just felt like making an album

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:18 AM
hi yami already added the guys that replied to the list....
go to irc

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:19 AM
haha okay just wait a minute and nice we were able to recruit quite some members

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:20 AM
mmm im thinkinh of lvling scorched if he provides us with 2 good posts, if deman give more pics and info hell be a tenshi too and if Darky keeps it up with the sigs too

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:25 AM
Yup that would be good and if lunar and Aphelion spam a lil bit more

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:26 AM
aphelion is doing fine, hell be promoted soon...
btw i cant promote anyone without your blessing, thats why there is a council.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:28 AM
Haha it's fine I don't think you'll promote someone without a reason but then will we let all of them when they do enough reach the rank of council then there would only be council and no wannna bes

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:31 AM
thats fine, but the council is made up to 4 ppl no more
after reaching council status we need a 3 votes to degrade it

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:34 AM
I'd say just after 4 ppl making it to council the highest promotion for the others left would be main tenshi so noone would be degreaded since they migth be offended

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:53 AM
why would they be offended??

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:55 AM
Since they tried their best to go up and they would get degraded?

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:56 AM
its up to vote, and it needs a good reason too not degreading because so

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:59 AM
but then yeah maybe we should only have 4 council memebers and the rest until main tenshi only

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 05:06 AM
thats the idea. its nice to have this kind of stuff set up beforehand

Lunarchaos
04-22-2008, 05:09 AM
would have gotten back in here eariler but yea almosy done with the comp >.<

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 05:10 AM
take your time, once you are a member we gonna support ya....
gl with the comp

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 05:48 AM
haha it's good that your comp is alive again

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 05:53 AM
yay reached 1000 posts time to go yo sleep no one was here to play online.w ell maybe tomorrow
now switching back to osx.... good night and good luck

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 05:53 AM
Good night gd and congrats for reaching 1000 posts

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 06:03 AM
Hola Everyone!!!! :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 06:03 AM
Haha hi aphelion

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 06:05 AM
Hi cutie... :p Did you just woke up?? :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 06:08 AM
Yup about 30 mins ago told you I'd sleep till 10 am

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 06:09 AM
Wew... I wanted to sleep until 10 AM too but My father woke me up at 7 AM *hiks*

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 06:10 AM
Haha I can sleep as long as I want and stay awake as long as I want

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 06:12 AM
Lucky Bastard :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 06:13 AM
Haha now that's because I do good at school and I'm leaving for a while for translating

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 06:15 AM
Kekekeke..... Good luck at translating!!! :ganbaree:

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 01:47 PM
well im unluky in that matter, i have to wake up early everyday and thats not nice. but as tenshi we have to work to complete the missions kami send us...... hmmm its a nice idea for a manga....
i guess soon the official Tenshi FC manga ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 01:49 PM
haha fanbook? And we've reached 100 posts yay!

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 01:56 PM
but we are going for more, just need more ppl to become tenshins....
btw i guess aphelion ought to become a tenshi....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Yup maybe if he posts here again a lil bit more or maybe we already can you can decide ^^

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Tenshi FC current project: Fanbook lol.....with pics.
im gonna do it soon im gonna need help creating the stories

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 02:02 PM
LOL you're gonna do one for real!? haha well how do you publish it and I want to rep you but the rep thing won't let me rep anyone for 2 days wonder why

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 02:22 PM
dont worry at first im gonna try to do a small strip.
after that ill see what can be done

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 02:30 PM
haha and my tenshi album is updated with more pics!

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Deman were you referring to me

Actualy yea ^^

p.s. Finally Done with my banner ^^

http://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/697507_6f3.jpg

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:16 PM
nice banner......
what is for??

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:18 PM
haha nice logo and banner deman

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 04:18 PM
To show that I"m one of the Tenshi's ^^

p.s. so are you ready for WC3?

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:22 PM
you are one of the tenshis... i guess youll get to tenshi lvl very soon.
p.s. i have to get to my house, ill be there in one hour maybe

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-22-2008, 04:24 PM
bye for now then gd

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:28 PM
ill be leaving in 30 mins. then its about 20 min to my place

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 04:46 PM
Fine, see you in and hour.

p.s. I've started an angel album (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/album.php?albumid=58), like yami

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 04:49 PM
you have officially gained the Tenshi level as of now you are no longer a wanna be tenshi but a tenshi itself.
may Kami`s light shine upon you and you climb more ranks in the tenshi world

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Yea thx a bunch ^^

Here is a Calling for Angels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqVnOLiH0FM). Quite relaxing ^^

DarkBlood
04-22-2008, 05:01 PM
Tried doing something that kind of look like a robotangel. This one if also free to use.
http://pici.se/pictures/JQZJLGeRc.jpg

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 05:18 PM
:Hoppity_Hop: Added some more picks to my ablum, now my Tenshi Album (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/album.php?albumid=58) holds 40 angel picks ^^

gdperrin
04-22-2008, 05:45 PM
nice work both of you. very very nice sig, and thats a good album deman

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 05:57 PM
Found some really nice infgo about Fallen Angels


Fallen Angels
http://www.torrentsmd.com/imagestorage/697756_9bd.jpg


The story of a rebel force that defies a Deity has been a topic of great fascination for authors and poets for millennia. There are para-biblical stories about how angels defied God to sleep with mortal women and bear children. John Milton creates a vivid mythos around Satan as a tragic character. Greek poets speak of Prometheus who defied Zeus and was condemned to eternal torment in a similar fashion.

Origin of the Fallen Angels Story

The question most people seem to have is where did the story of the watchers come from? I've mentioned the three passages under the descriptions of Watchers and Lucifer on the demon page, but just to put everything together, I thought I'd put the two stories together. Before doing so, let me briefly say that the question of evil has plagued theologians and philosophers for millennia. In Judeo-Christian thought, the problem was more pronounced - if God is an omnipotent being that is entirely good, how can evil exist? Why would God create a world that was not entirely 'good' in the first place, and even if he did create evil, why would he allow it to continue to exist?

Put another way, why do the righteous suffer while the wicked prosper - issues addressed by Jeremiah and Job. The fallen angels accounts attempt to offer a mythological explanation - part of God's subordinates sinned against him and corrupted humanity in the process.

2 Accounts of the Fall

Generally, there are 2 flavors of the fallen angels myth. The first describes a group of angels who, lead by Azazel, lusted after the women of earth. They defiled themselves by mating with humans and their consorts gave birth to mean-spirited giants. God was not pleased with the rebellion and punished them for their misdeeds, but not before humanity was corrupted in the process. This tale is introduced in Genesis 6:1-4 and elaborated on in the Book of Enoch, part of the Jewish Pseudepigrapha which is a collection of works not found in the bible.

The other story involves the mightiest angel who, out of pride, rebelled against God during the time of Creation. This mighty angel (Lucifer) sought to overthrow God, but he failed and was cast out of heaven to become Satan, the adversary. Then, out of contempt for mankind, he lead Adam and Eve to sin.

In addition to these accounts, there is another account of the Satan who directly opposed God, but was never fully explained.

As mentioned in the Watchers description, there are two potential biblical passages that refer to the first account of the fallen angel myth - Genesis 6:1-4 and Psalm 82:1, 5-7. To summarize, Gen 6 explains that the angels married women, but does not explicitly condemn this while Psalm 82 mentions that the angels sinned, but does not mention that the cause of their sin was that they married mortal women. There is no biblical evidence to support any connection between the two passages. There is only one potential passage referring to the second myth - Isaiah 14:12-15. Most scholars conjecture that this myth was derived from a lost Canaanite myth about a rebellion to overthrow El and Elyon.

Reference:
Article: Book of Enoch (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=288)
Article: The Book of Enoch and the Pseudepigrapha (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=36)
Article: Watchers/Nephilim (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=186)
Article: Azazel (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=100)
Article: Lucifer (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=184)
Article: Satan (http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=327)

Scorched
04-22-2008, 08:26 PM
How about we all describe what our own angels would be like?

Mine would be rather short for an angel, perhaps around 5 feet 5 inches or so. She would have beautiful raven black hair as well as black wings. I know that isn't typical for angels (lets say its rather rare) but she came into the world that way and it shapes who she is. Because she has black wings if she is seen she is sometimes mistaken for an angel of death, which is incorrect since she is my guardian angel. Because she has always looked different she has her own sense of style and doesn't feel the need to dress in "traditional" angel attire. She is willing to play with colors and likes to wear chokers (hey I think chokers are cute, and I am not talking about the ones with spikes but the simple cloth ones with perhaps a little lace on them). She is highly intelligent, excessively loving, and very loyal. She sometimes can be over protective and tries to influence me away from things she thinks might be too dangerous or risky. Of course I am stubborn so it doesn't always work. :p

I am still trying to decide on a name but it's hard so if you have suggestions let me know. I want something that sounds good and has an appropriate meaning.

So come on guys make her some friends. ^_^

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 08:36 PM
Pick Clare or Teresa ^^ That would do really nice and these names have meaning ^^

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Ohhh... Clare and Teresa.... I heard that name somewhere..... :hmmm:
Ah!!! They are the Beauty Sisters in Claymore!!! :D

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:33 PM
YEa! They'ar Da'Bombs!

Lunarchaos
04-22-2008, 10:34 PM
hmm my own angel this might take some thought.

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:34 PM
Which one do you choose to marry with? Clare or Teresa? :p

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:38 PM
Teresa! Of course! She’s one hell of a doll, when it comes to looks ^^

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:40 PM
Hmmm.... Yeah you right since Clare has the Sharp looks in her eyes... but Clare isn't bad either :D

Lunarchaos
04-22-2008, 10:41 PM
hmm tough choice. how about both? :bounce:

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:42 PM
Yea, but Teresa looks a lot more mature ^^

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:43 PM
Weks!! One is more than enough you know :D
Greed will make you suffer :D

Lunarchaos
04-22-2008, 10:43 PM
Ones never enough!! Plenty to go around.

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:45 PM
That's true as well, both would be a lot better ^^

p.s. The hell! It's not greed, it’s self interest^^

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:45 PM
Wow! if you married two girls or more all you'll get is trouble, you know? :D

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:49 PM
Nope no problems, It's nice to have a harem, though it might make some bad situations.

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:51 PM
It will end like the School Days Anime ending :D

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 10:55 PM
Nah, it won't anything as dramaticall. . . what am I talking about it won't end at all!

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 10:56 PM
What if it end like School Days cause Life will end sooner or later right?

DemanHunter
04-22-2008, 11:04 PM
Never! I'll be a “student of life” forever! ^^

p.s. That was a cool phrase ^^

Aphelion
04-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Yeah a little :p

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 03:37 AM
ok i dont get anything of this at all but is fine, this is a place for tenshis to talk about stuff........i guess lol

DarkBlood
04-23-2008, 06:59 AM
Well.. A good anime with angels that you should watch if you haven't already. Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-Chan. Club-to-Death Angel Dokuro-Chan. ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 07:01 AM
Haha I will try watching it thanks for the info

DarkBlood
04-23-2008, 07:28 AM
Yami, do you never sleep? You always online. >_> :p

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 11:17 AM
It's vacation right now at her place so I think she'll keep online until tomorrow......

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 11:23 AM
I sleep LOL but maybe around 3 am and wake up at about 10 or 11 am and my ava is already a tenshi

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 11:25 AM
Kekekekekeke...... You said you dislike cuteness but your avy and your face is cute you know....... :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 11:26 AM
The ava is like that because it's an angel so even if it's cute I'll make an exception since I really don't hate cute just dislike it but stop saying that my face is too LOL people might believe you

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Hey It's the truth! and it's good if people believe in me :p

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 11:31 AM
Nope it's not true so not true!

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 11:32 AM
Kekekekeke..... It's the truth and will be the truth fooooorrrreeeevvvveeeeerrrrr :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 12:00 PM
LOL I'll leave to think what you want already really you're hard to convince

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 12:04 PM
Yes... I'm a tough person.... Kekekekekeke :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 12:07 PM
I find it tiring when it takes too long too impatient so okay I'm fine with it but my opinion of myself shall never change

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 01:06 PM
Seriously yami's face is cute?

Yami take a pick of your face, I want to see how you look ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 01:11 PM
No, no I'm not cute LOL they just keep on saying that but no way really and Negima 211 raw is up I'm translating it already the first half that is

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 01:26 PM
Kekekekeke..... Tenshi sigy Banzai!!!!! :D

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 01:38 PM
Come one, I'm very kind when it comes to someone’s appearance. I'm sure you're cute ^^ If you want I can make pick of myself and we can exchange them ^^

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 01:43 PM
Hey don't believe her! she's lying, the truth is she's reaaaallyy cute :D

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 01:45 PM
Yea, that’s why I want to make sure for myself. ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 01:55 PM
I don't know but then maybe I'll PM you the link as long as you delete the message afterwards

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 02:04 PM
Don`t be shy yami youŽre cute... dont feel so insecure about it

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 02:05 PM
Yeah Show me your pic once more!!!! I can't get enough of it :p

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 02:27 PM
Great! Then I'll send you my pick when I get home ^^

p.s. And you people do not deserve to see the beauty of Yami-sama!

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 02:29 PM
Sorry but I've already seen it :D
But I didn't save it cause I don't have the right to do it :D

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 02:32 PM
I think it's kinda obvious that you guys have seen it since you guys keep on describing me

Aphelion
04-23-2008, 02:33 PM
Oi Deman-san... Send me your pic too okay?

I'm curious about your real face :D

And I must leave right now See ya!!!!

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 02:38 PM
I'll post my pick on the forum then ^^ no need to hid it, I'm not shy. It's not like I'm an ugly nerd.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 02:39 PM
Okay want to see it and the ugly person was me right?

DemanHunter
04-23-2008, 03:10 PM
^^ I can't see the pick on my ppc. When I'll get back home I'll be the judge and I’m sure you're just shy ^^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 03:12 PM
Okay you guys can just say anything but let's forget about this topic since I don't want other people to continue this talk about me being cute and the likes. This should also make it easier for everyone to forget so that noone will ask for the pic again haha let's just enjoy spamming

DarkBlood
04-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Poor Yami, it's not easy being a girl on a forum full of perverted guys. :p

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 06:29 PM
this is done, i need you to gimme some linsks or whatever of tutorials about creatin lovely chibi comics..... im gonna do the official chibi tenshi comic

DarkBlood
04-23-2008, 06:34 PM
http://foreverwaiting.deviantart.com/art/A-Chibi-Guide-to-Expressions-75653403

http://www.tutorial-center.com/search/How+to+Draw+a+Chibi/1/

Here you go councilor-dono. ^^

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 06:41 PM
thnx a bunch been looking for something like that for 2 days

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 07:22 PM
haha good luck with it gd

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 07:37 PM
the second link dont have anything... :sigh: time to keep searching

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 07:39 PM
haha try your best gd good luck

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 08:36 PM
i will i tried doing a chibi panda and was a complete failure lol.... i need to make things better if im to do the comic

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 08:40 PM
Haha maybe I'll try doing chibi tenshi four panel comics then I'll scan it haha

gdperrin
04-23-2008, 08:45 PM
doing it in photoshop thats what i want, i can draw by hand and pretty good too lol

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 08:47 PM
then why not draw then just color it and sorry if I make it sound simple while I also don't know how

DarkBlood
04-23-2008, 08:49 PM
thnx a bunch been looking for something like that for 2 days


No problem *cough* promotion *cough* :p :nyaa:

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-23-2008, 08:52 PM
Haha okay I'll tell gd to do so promotion for darkblood and it seems that you have a cough haha

Lunarchaos
04-23-2008, 10:35 PM
:(hmm seems I missed alot between my 12 hours of sleep then work :(

Scorched
04-24-2008, 12:04 AM
That tends to happen, at least I can check things on my breaks. Too bad they are two 10 minute breaks and half an hour lunch for a 10 hour shift.

Lunarchaos
04-24-2008, 01:03 AM
Yea I can also but I tend to sit in the break room and chat.

Scorched
04-24-2008, 02:52 AM
I might do that except the people I can have conversations that hold my interest tend to go home for supper and our breaks are too short to waste walking all the way to the break room. Another reason is most of the people I like to talk to are on days.

So have you come up with an Angel of your very own? <--- An attempt to bring us back to topic..
:tenshi2:

Lunarchaos
04-24-2008, 04:29 AM
Not yet but still trying to figure it out.

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 04:31 AM
keep it up, u sure are doing a great job, dont forget to bring more ppl in lol

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 04:46 AM
gd maybe if they spam a little more we could already promote darkblood and aphelion and scorched and lunar are also quite near to promotion too

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 04:52 AM
well lets promote all of them, and from now on if a new guy come he-she needs to bring a new member to be promoted

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 04:54 AM
LOL what a hard thing to do but maybe you should ask them bout it too the council can't monopolize everything anyway but if they approve fine with me

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 04:56 AM
hmmm maybe, i was just talking about promoting from wanna be to tenshi. then is all about the spam lol

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 04:57 AM
well I guess it's okay then but maybe we shouldn't include the wanna be's now and we should just apply the rule for members to come

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 04:59 AM
thats what i was talking about.... any new he-she.
i already promoted dark and aphelion. and Scorched and Lunar will be soon.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 05:01 AM
yup then it's fine I guess

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 05:24 AM
then it done my fellow council tenshi xD

Scorched
04-24-2008, 05:39 AM
Woo, let's climb the ladder.

Can't even post from a work computer, internet is down so this is a phone post.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 05:42 AM
Haha you can do it Scorched and look forard to spamming with you when you're not that busy

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 05:48 AM
if he sends a phone post to get promoted hes really into it i guess ge earned it. but cant do it till yami confirms

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 05:49 AM
It's fine with me LOL I don't even know how to make a phone post T_T

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 05:50 AM
me neither but it seems like hes doing it lol xD

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 05:51 AM
haha I don't know how LOL I'm so slow in so many things haha

gdperrin
04-24-2008, 05:53 AM
dont worry, in this im right behind you (too slow)

DarkBlood
04-24-2008, 06:53 AM
Perry, this might be something you could use.
http://invadermar.deviantart.com/art/How-to-draw-a-chibi-tutorial-32992764

Scorched
04-24-2008, 08:50 AM
It's fine with me LOL I don't even know how to make a phone post T_T


It's quite easy, if you have a phone with a web browser you just enter in the forum address and you will get the mobile view of the forum. Empire Inc was kind enough to activate the mobile skin after I asked. You will only be able to view text and I would suggest you avoid any posts that might have spoilers since you will see what the spoilers are (it doesn't hide them and you will see them in all their glory).

I have a Blackberry Pearl which has a decent browser (I suggest if you have a blackberry to install mobile opera as well) but the mobile view of the forum is very basic so it will work on virtually any phone that has a browser. Just make sure you have a data plan since you don't need unexpected charges.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 08:55 AM
Thanks for always teaching me things I don't know Scorched haha sorry if I'm a bother

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:03 AM
No bother Yami, I have no problem helping out friends. If you can't count on friends then life would suck don't you think? ^_^

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:04 AM
haha thanks again scorched I'm just really dumb that when I first came here someone even had to make me a step by step tutorial for IRC with pics haha

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Same with me :D
I'm not really used to computer and stuff :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:09 AM
Well I really never use IRC for chatting, I download things sometimes but that's about it. I haven't really touched any chat programs lately.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:11 AM
Haha I used to be addicted in Yahoo Messenger though and does anyone know what FTW means?

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Dunno.... I'm curious about that too :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:16 AM
FTW For The Win

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:17 AM
Oh I see haha sorry again Scorched it's just that someone repped me and wrote that so I got curious and why is it that I can't rep anyone lately

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:19 AM
Ooohhhh!!! Thanks :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:19 AM
I think you have to do 10 different people before it will let you rep the same person again and if you rep too much in a 24 hour period it will prevent you from repping for half a day or a day (not exactly sure how long)

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:20 AM
Ah I see and I just repped someone else and now I can rep again I just repped you for always teaching me haha

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:26 AM
Thanks, you just made me jump to the 4 green dots. ^_^ I always rep throughout the day but I always forget who I repped and how long ago I did it.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:27 AM
haha me too memory gap and congrats with 4 dots

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:29 AM
Hey what's the use of the dots under "Location"?

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:29 AM
Well we should get you to six dots here pretty soon. You'll be in the elite club, all shall bow down to you :p

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:30 AM
That's reputation Aphelion and I'm not really that concerned with reps Scorched rather want to raise my posts count rank haha but kinda busy with transaltions now I'll be finishing one later

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Hey what's the use of the dots under "Location"?


It's your reputation. Below those dots under there is a scale. You click on that and you can give someone reputation. The exclamation mark has the opposite affect. So if you like someone or their posts click on the scale.

You can then type a comment and most people put their user name as well.

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:32 AM
Huh??? I don't really get it.....
Che!.... whatever.... it's okay as long as I can still spamming here :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:35 AM
Aphelion go back to page 23 and check my post, and if you still need help let me know.

Yami on one hand I don't care about rep but on the other its kind of fun to keep up with everyone else. I hand out rep like candy though and I have actually had to do the waiting thing before I could post more :p

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:37 AM
haha I also give rep like that I wasn't able to rep for like 2 whole days because of that

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:37 AM
Ohhh..... I get it now :D
Thanks for your help Scorched-san :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:41 AM
You're most welcome Aphelion.

You know how we are always bringing up cake, I got some two days in a row at work. Today and yesterday, and its a good thing too since I needed the calories since I haven't eaten much the past couple of days. I really need to go buy some food :p

Edit: Oh and Aphelion you can see the last ten reps you have gotten if you click on the user cp link at the top of the forum.

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:43 AM
LOL you're so lucky the only tasty food in my house recently has been mangoes and salads I haven't eaten bread for days

Scorched
04-24-2008, 09:47 AM
Haha, we are in the same boat apparently. I have eggs and some cheese and that's about it. I have meat in the freezer but they all require a lot of preparation so its not something I will do during the work week. I only have 3 teabags left too, though I get 2 uses out of those.

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:47 AM
Both of you're so lucky....
There's nothing I can eat at my house right now.....

yami_no_tenshi1563
04-24-2008, 09:50 AM
LOL it's food shortage around the world

Aphelion
04-24-2008, 09:54 AM
Ah.... you're right we're still lucky compared to the people in Ethiopia :D

Scorched
04-24-2008, 10:00 AM
Yeah, I am not that bad yet but if I don't find a new job or get a cost of living increase at work I could be. Student loans are the work of the Devil I tell you!

Edit: I asked a question about the possibility of putting badges somewhere under the avatars on forum posts to signify being members of clubs. Check the news/rules/info/suggestions section to see the post (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4443).

gdperrin
04-25-2008, 12:26 AM
seen the post, very good idea.
btw it seems you been playing the role of a teacher with yami and aphelion, lol. i rep u whenever i can to all of you :D
and i found a lot of stuff to start making the comic strip. But iŽve been out of time lately, no time at all actually im kinda in zombie mode right now lol

Lunarchaos
04-25-2008, 03:26 AM
What type of comic strip I know it's about angels but what sorts of story line. And yay a sig done :D

gdperrin
04-25-2008, 03:46 AM
well a funny comic strip, thats what i wanted to do.... a similar type these: comic 1 (http://silentreaper.deviantart.com/art/Death-Note-Braindead-55501920)
More like this one (short) (http://silentreaper.deviantart.com/art/Death-Note-Overdose-46000177)

Lunarchaos
04-25-2008, 04:30 AM
hmm that would be cool more power to you lol I lack the creative talent to make a comic.

gdperrin
04-25-2008, 04:36 AM
i dont expect them to be exactly like that... not at all
just an idea

Scorched
04-25-2008, 08:41 AM
Hey I am all for entertainment, just have fun with it. Helping people is a good thing, at least when it is something I understand and can help out with :p

gdperrin
04-25-2008, 09:32 AM
ok ppl first time i do something like this, took me a while but im happy with the results in general..... I hope to improve in the future.
credit to silentreaper in deviantart for inspiring and because i borrow the pcs of the comic lol ^^
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm79/gdperrin/comic.jpg

dont forget to tell your friends lol

Scorched
04-25-2008, 09:47 AM
Haha, got to say DarkBlood's is my favorite. I might have changed one of the WTFs to WTH or someting else since I actually noticed the use twice as I was reading.

gdperrin
04-25-2008, 09:49 AM
good point im gonna change it tomorrow...... right now im too asleep.
btw next strip is gonna be of you, lunar and aphelion.
just send some info