Questions about R+V s1 and 2!! Post here, don't make a new thread every single time!!

[LF2005]

:Hi:
I want to ask, until which chapter it had be translated ?, I think a long time had past since the last release so I was wondering if I can help out to make it faster.
I also want to know how many chapters are ? (I have understood that they are about 40),
I have read fron 1 to 34 in the first season & and 3 of the second.

I'm a spanish talker and my english isn't so good so sorry for the grammatic

[Ilesyt]

There are 40 chapters, 36 are translated (maybe 37 by now, but I think it's still 36) and 34 are scanlated. And there's not really a need for a translator for R+V I think.

[bleachftw]

there is 34 scanlated but when is 35 and 36 going to be done cause i really want to read it
and i also need to read 4,and 5 of season 2 is it done?

[Ilesyt]

Go ask Kenjimaru <.<

[tmc21121]

Yes... but dont be too naggy about it... be polite, respectful, and keep your eyes lowered. Never look directly into the eyes.

[dipset]

hey folks :)
i have a question about whats going on with r+v?
i read some other threads and post an i guess the chapter 35 is still done
when will it be released
thx guys =)
i guess my english is very horrible
mfg dip

[Ilesyt]

it's probably done but kenji doesn't want it scankated yet, maybe we'll get it this coming sunday <.<

[tmc21121]

But that is a big maybee... Seems there is a reason as to why it hasnt been released, but unfortunatley we are not privy to such information.

[dipset]

hmm its a great pity =(....
i've hope you right Ilesyt
really!

dip

[ff nut]

maybe he got fed up with people saying hurry up and scanlate and decided to teach us a lesson :P

[Ilesyt]

nono, like I said, kenji didn't have anything to do with the scan and trans in the beginning.

But we should expect the scan by sunday, I assure it.

[tmc21121]

If your wrong Ilesyt, I will gut you in my imagination and arrange your intrails in a stylish design while you are still living. Mental excercise to help deal with anger and dissapointment.

[neuro]

the is just wrong kenji just messing with us we all knowe it is done laste week some time

[Sonic8264]

So if Kenji has it done, then why doesnt he want it to be scanned?

[Ilesyt]

well, this is all over, no need discussing it anymore.

[zpro]

There seems to be a conflict in the story line between Moka-San and Tsukune
as in Chapter 39 season 1 manga, where all the girls are over Tsukune house,
and Moka-San, is talking with Tsukune Mother, and the other girls are fighting over Tsukune outside.
The mother tells how her son cares allot about this girl, Moka-San,
and that she has Never seem Tsukune like this before. (could it be love).

Now, Moka-San is filled with emotions, and goes outside, and to give Tsukune a hug, (of compassion) love ?..
well the point is, Tsukune is worried Moka-San will be hurt, "she is not" and takes Tsukune hand to pull on her cross, to remove it

Then the Vampire Moka-San appears, and kicks butt... but afterwards..
She tell Tsukune "More or less" its your fault... "You must choose a Companion"

Okay... Does that imply Moka-San ( The Full Vampire) or the regular Moka-San.
or, is she JUST referring to the other girls, and NOT Her Self at all.


NOW fast forward, to Chapter 1 Season 2
Where the little witch gives Moka-San a smell of a secret aphrodisiac, plus the other girls get a smell too.

Just focusing on Moka-San....part, where her and Tsukune are alone, and she is Hot to go, as they say..
and Tsukune knows Moka-San is not right... and tries to stop but Moka-San is demanding....
THEN the Full Vampire Moka-San, smacks Tsukune in the face with the cross...
and now the cross is going nutz.. and Tsukune, oops pulls it off... and Now the Full Vampire Moka-San appears,
Tsukune is on top of Full Vampire Moka-San, and she is pisst off.

Problem, its NOT Tsukune fault. NOTE: I thought the Vampire Moka-San,
can hear and sense things around Moka-San.. WHY would she put the smack down on Tsukune,
since its NOT his Tsukune fault at all.

Problem, after Tsukune comes back around, from his smack, by Moka-San,
Tsukune tell Moka-San again, its the Aphrodisiac.. Then The Vampire Moka-San DUMPS the Trash Talk on him.

((My Supreme Pride as a Vampire.. will NOT allow a "Lowly Human" " "Like You" to get Near ME. ))
(( Touch Moka-San would be Touching me, and would just be to rude))
(( You are not allowed to Touch this body))

---
How many times, did Tsukune throw his Lowly Human Body into the Fire,
as they say... to save or protect his friends, How many times, did Tsukune run to save Moka-San,
and remove the cross (this Lowly Human), How Many Times, Moka-San, wants to suck on Tsukune blood.

This Lowly Human has proven his worth many times over..

They haven't even Kiss (not even once)
Next, Tsukune is NOT Human per-say (100%) if you remove that locket he will change,
and when he fights and needs to protect someone say "Moka-San" his vampire side comes out.
( So, he is really NOT a true human per-say)
more like a hybrid Human/Vampire/Ghoul

So, you can see, where the story is going off, and not keeping track with the romantic parts,
between "Both Moka-San", and Tsukune, there seems to be a conflict error between the season one and season two manga.

Sorry for the Long winded Post.
Please if someone has more insight on what going on.. please correct me.

Thanks-
:Hi:

[shadowThingy]

Obviously when Inner moka said "choose a companion" she probably didnt include herself and outer moka into that, perhaps she was only refering to the other girls :S


OR

this possibilty sounds a bit too simple but its quite possible, when Inner moka said she wouldnt let him have her, maybe she just forgot what she'd a few months earlier in the human world =\


its just a plothole really, every story has them


and even though he has prove himself many times, the fact is, he's still human (or half-human? im not sure anymore O_o) and add that together with moka's vampire pride and her pure womenly stubborness, its no surprise she wouldnt consider him "good enough"

[CodeGeass]

Aphrodisiac messes the sense of the inner and outer moka.. whats the conflict?

[zpro]

Aphrodisiac messes the sense of the inner and outer moka.. whats the conflict?


Aphrodisiac would not do that, it would do more of the romantic aspects,
NOT giving the smack down. and Since the Vampire Moka-San, was locked up per say ( she was NOT affected ) by the aphrodisiac gas.

-R
:poke:

[shadowThingy]

how about we just forget it and just accept what R+V gives us like good little mindless fan slaves X_X all this thinking is making my headache worse, the heat's doing enough damage as it is >_<

[tmc21121]

Alright, basically what she said in 1 of II was that if he wanted Outer Moka, he would have to seduce her(inner Moka) first..... She didnt say it was impossible, just nearly. Also, I think she said that a little bit out of jealousy, seeing as how he is precious to her(she has proven that many upon many times) and not just because he can remove the Rosario(again, she has proven that many times), and for some reason he is always doing the lovey dovey stuff with Outer rather than her.....

What she said in 39 of I, is basically to stop dicking around and make it known who he wants to be with, wich he has several times. The problem with that is that they wont give up, and will continue to be around him and trying to seduce/rape him and what not. She didnt include/exclude herself at all, she just wasnt very specific either way.

[CodeGeass]

well the translation is not 100% accurate imo, maybe 90% we could not say..

[zpro]

Alright, basically what she said in 1 of II was that if he wanted Outer Moka, he would have to seduce her(inner Moka) first..... She didnt say it was impossible, just nearly. Also, I think she said that a little bit out of jealousy, seeing as how he is precious to her(she has proven that many upon many times) and not just because he can remove the Rosario(again, she has proven that many times), and for some reason he is always doing the lovey dovey stuff with Outer rather than her.....


Yes, now we are getting somewhere... Since she is Smart and Prideful Vampire, whom knows how old she really is...
Logic would dictate that Tsukune
is the real deal, and would Love Her forever.. as per say.

However, It would be nice, if the vampire Moka, would go out on a date or sorts..
to break the ice with Tsukune.. but being a Lowly Human Hybrid

But, it seems, there to much Sexual Tension, going on between everyone,
and Tsukune is getting the short end of the stick. ( come on, 4 girls in your bedroom) yikes!!

But, I also think, that the vampire Moka, is very powerful, in such that, its her ego/pride, that a lowly human can help that much.

<ANIME>when watching the anime,
chapter 13, When Tsukune last words was to protect everyone in the newspaper club,
and forget himself (please) WAKE UP... Moka, that he did not even care about himself at all,
was to ask Moka to use her powers to save them...
Was his last words... then he removes the cross, and drops his hand... she then freaks out,
and the Vampire Moka is pisst off (Okay) good.. and kicks the guys butt, for the first round,
but Tsukune is at death door, and All the girls protect him with there lives...
( WAKE UP MOKA) why? duh.. So the Vampire Moka,
give Tsukune some Vamp Blood, and then a little later when all the other girls,
are wipe out, she fights the head dude... Since she gave Tsukune her blood she is as to say, running at 1/2 power for a few mins..
but it looks like she got her butt kick and that Guys was going in with the Finishing Move to Kill Them Both.

Look Up the Sky, its a Bird no its a Plan, no its Super Tsukune to the rescue .. and saving The Vampire Moka...
( Yes, I did enjoy that, its about time ) and the fact, she did some kidding back at Tsukune call him a sleepy head. ( very good)

But, some how I not seeing that in the Manga... if there are both written and directed by the same company, can they at least be in the ball park, in regard to Moka and Tsukune relationship.
:Hi:

[Sonic8264]

there are always diferances between Manga and Anime when it comes to the fine details... just be glad that it isn't so off as being an American dubb...

[T-6000]

That is also what I am confused about, as well. And it's not only with Chapter 39, but with the first season as well. I remembered in a few chapters when Inner Moka told Tsukune that his relationship with Outer moka doesn't involve her and that it's between them. And there were a few scenes where it looked like Moka and Tsukune were about to kiss. Why didn't Inner Moka have a problem with that in Season 1? I was starting to gain respect for Inner Moka, until she struck Tsukune in Chapter 1 of Season 2. The first thought that was going through my head was "Oh you goddamn bitch! You should be broken in half for that!"

The problem with Inner Moka is that since she is very strong and powerful, that power goes to her head and thus is why she is very arrogant. And because of that arrogance, no matter what you do for them and no matter how much you love them, and care for them, they'll always think lower of you. Sure, she rescues and helps out Tsukune but I think it's more for her own self ambitions (such as Rosary removement and blood drinking) than
any real feelings. I *really* hope I'm wrong, but that is what i see so far.
I've seen that type of arrogance happen in all sorts of stories, and in real life. Not always, but usually the best way to break out of that arrogance is to show them the bitter lesson of Humility. Meaning that they have to be shown that they are not the strongest and most powerful the hard way, by not only being defeated but beaten real badly. I'm thinking that perhaps this is the best way to break Inner Moka out of this, for her to get beaten real badly and then for Tsukune to step in, help her out, and save her life.
That may help bring her closer to Tsukune, but then again maybe not. Maybe something else is needed.

Anyways, what I am trying to get at is that I see 2 reasons that (despite Tsukune sticking his neck on the line for her) Inner Moka still looks down upon Tsukune. It could be that she only saves him and tolerates him because he is useful to her. Or that she really wants to be with him but something is keeping her away from him still and that Tsukune needs to do something on his end to bring her closer. But this is all just fan speculation on my part. Who knows what will happen in the future. And honestly, I admire Tsukune's patience. If I were in his shoes, I would sorely be tempted to just leave Moka and go with another one of the girls.

[Sonic8264]

you need to remember some things T-600:
1.in chapter 38, Moka went after the art teacher for the mirror so that she could turn into a vampire without putting Tsukune in danger.

2 probably why she got in the way of Tsukune in Season 2 is because she knew of the stuff Moka was on... lol... but didnt want any false messages to be passed to Tsukune, even if she wanted to be with him. I mean how would you feel if some hot girl you liked made out with you, and then turned around the next day and said "oh, I dont really like you like that."

3.and on the kissing thing, part of the plot line is for Tsukune to get "closer" to Moka, and if they kissed and all, then wouldnt that end about half of the fan suspence, and also probably lead to an end of the series due to a major factor of the series being resolved? I mean, some people read manga's like R+V because they want to see how the hero(Tsukune) gets together with the girl(Moka) and if that ends, than some people may stop reading.

4. (Personal thing) I really hate writing these long things... -_-'...

[HNX]

And honestly, I admire Tsukune's patience. If I were in his shoes, I would sorely be tempted to just leave Moka and go with another one of the girls.
Dont ever say THAT!!! :| YOu dont understand the beautiful feeling of being with cute arrogant Inner Moka!! :| its something else. all the girl;s compared to the inner moka! are WORTHLESS Lol

Inner Moka 4 Life,
HNX

[TigersDemon]

dude, -_-" stop already. we get it

[shadowThingy]

dude, -_-" stop already. we get it

was that to HNX comment or towards this thread lol?

whichever it is, I agree with both, frankly we can discuss this for the next 20 pages, or we can put it as a plothole and leave it there ^_^

dont flame me, its just an option T_T

[TigersDemon]

i agree. anything else can go in the random thread. (by the way i was talking to HNX but that works too)

[HNX]

Alright no more! Lol
DONT reply to this thread anymore
Not even to say "OK"! Lol

End of Thread

[zpro]

That is also what I am confused about, as well. And it's not only with Chapter 39, but with the first season as well. I remembered in a few chapters when Inner Moka told Tsukune that his relationship with Outer moka doesn't involve her and that it's between them. And there were a few scenes where it looked like Moka and Tsukune were about to kiss. Why didn't Inner Moka have a problem with that in Season 1? I was starting to gain respect for Inner Moka, until she struck Tsukune in Chapter 1 of Season 2. The first thought that was going through my head was "Oh you goddamn bitch! You should be broken in half for that!"

The problem with Inner Moka is that since she is very strong and powerful, that power goes to her head and thus is why she is very arrogant. And because of that arrogance, no matter what you do for them and no matter how much you love them, and care for them, they'll always think lower of you. Sure, she rescues and helps out Tsukune but I think it's more for her own self ambitions (such as Rosary removement and blood drinking) than
any real feelings. I *really* hope I'm wrong, but that is what i see so far.
I've seen that type of arrogance happen in all sorts of stories, and in real life. Not always, but usually the best way to break out of that arrogance is to show them the bitter lesson of Humility. Meaning that they have to be shown that they are not the strongest and most powerful the hard way, by not only being defeated but beaten real badly. I'm thinking that perhaps this is the best way to break Inner Moka out of this, for her to get beaten real badly and then for Tsukune to step in, help her out, and save her life.
That may help bring her closer to Tsukune, but then again maybe not. Maybe something else is needed.

Anyways, what I am trying to get at is that I see 2 reasons that (despite Tsukune sticking his neck on the line for her) Inner Moka still looks down upon Tsukune. It could be that she only saves him and tolerates him because he is useful to her. Or that she really wants to be with him but something is keeping her away from him still and that Tsukune needs to do something on his end to bring her closer. But this is all just fan speculation on my part. Who knows what will happen in the future. And honestly, I admire Tsukune's patience. If I were in his shoes, I would sorely be tempted to just leave Moka and go with another one of the girls.

yes, now we are getting closer... The Full Vampire Moka, needs a Life or Death Fight where She has gotten her Butt Kick to near death, and Tsukune Changes, into a Full Vampire with NO Ghoul side effects, and Beats up the other Monster,
in front of her, with easy... but she is dying, and this time Tsukune Bits Her, and gives her his blood.

As for the other girls, I agree, I would drop Moka, along time ago.. with all the other girls out there.
:)

[zpro]

Sorry, I do not want to oppose the group, but this is where I would discuss Rosario + Vampire, as to say, "lets get talk about it" well I understand that it may have holes... but it still good to talk about " odds 'n ends " regarding the manga or anime

Regards - To All.

[tmc21121]

Yes, now we are getting somewhere... Since she is Smart and Prideful Vampire, whom knows how old she really is...
Logic would dictate that Tsukune
is the real deal, and would Love Her forever.. as per say.

However, It would be nice, if the vampire Moka, would go out on a date or sorts..
to break the ice with Tsukune.. but being a Lowly Human Hybrid

But, it seems, there to much Sexual Tension, going on between everyone,
and Tsukune is getting the short end of the stick. ( come on, 4 girls in your bedroom) yikes!!

But, I also think, that the vampire Moka, is very powerful, in such that, its her ego/pride, that a lowly human can help that much.

<ANIME>when watching the anime,
chapter 13, When Tsukune last words was to protect everyone in the newspaper club,
and forget himself (please) WAKE UP... Moka, that he did not even care about himself at all,
was to ask Moka to use her powers to save them...
Was his last words... then he removes the cross, and drops his hand... she then freaks out,
and the Vampire Moka is pisst off (Okay) good.. and kicks the guys butt, for the first round,
but Tsukune is at death door, and All the girls protect him with there lives...
( WAKE UP MOKA) why? duh.. So the Vampire Moka,
give Tsukune some Vamp Blood, and then a little later when all the other girls,
are wipe out, she fights the head dude... Since she gave Tsukune her blood she is as to say, running at 1/2 power for a few mins..
but it looks like she got her butt kick and that Guys was going in with the Finishing Move to Kill Them Both.

Look Up the Sky, its a Bird no its a Plan, no its Super Tsukune to the rescue .. and saving The Vampire Moka...
( Yes, I did enjoy that, its about time ) and the fact, she did some kidding back at Tsukune call him a sleepy head. ( very good)

But, some how I not seeing that in the Manga... if there are both written and directed by the same company, can they at least be in the ball park, in regard to Moka and Tsukune relationship.
:Hi:

I honestly want a chapter dedicated to Inner just walking around for a day w/ Tsukune.... not necessarily a date persay, just her walking around...

And I personally didnt like the anime... it differed from the manga too much...

That is also what I am confused about, as well. And it's not only with Chapter 39, but with the first season as well. I remembered in a few chapters when Inner Moka told Tsukune that his relationship with Outer moka doesn't involve her and that it's between them. And there were a few scenes where it looked like Moka and Tsukune were about to kiss. Why didn't Inner Moka have a problem with that in Season 1? I was starting to gain respect for Inner Moka, until she struck Tsukune in Chapter 1 of Season 2. The first thought that was going through my head was "Oh you goddamn bitch! You should be broken in half for that!"

The problem with Inner Moka is that since she is very strong and powerful, that power goes to her head and thus is why she is very arrogant. And because of that arrogance, no matter what you do for them and no matter how much you love them, and care for them, they'll always think lower of you. Sure, she rescues and helps out Tsukune but I think it's more for her own self ambitions (such as Rosary removement and blood drinking) than
any real feelings. I *really* hope I'm wrong, but that is what i see so far.
I've seen that type of arrogance happen in all sorts of stories, and in real life. Not always, but usually the best way to break out of that arrogance is to show them the bitter lesson of Humility. Meaning that they have to be shown that they are not the strongest and most powerful the hard way, by not only being defeated but beaten real badly. I'm thinking that perhaps this is the best way to break Inner Moka out of this, for her to get beaten real badly and then for Tsukune to step in, help her out, and save her life.
That may help bring her closer to Tsukune, but then again maybe not. Maybe something else is needed.

Anyways, what I am trying to get at is that I see 2 reasons that (despite Tsukune sticking his neck on the line for her) Inner Moka still looks down upon Tsukune. It could be that she only saves him and tolerates him because he is useful to her. Or that she really wants to be with him but something is keeping her away from him still and that Tsukune needs to do something on his end to bring her closer. But this is all just fan speculation on my part. Who knows what will happen in the future. And honestly, I admire Tsukune's patience. If I were in his shoes, I would sorely be tempted to just leave Moka and go with another one of the girls.

Moka has said so herself that its not about him taking off the Rosary or his blood. She actually wanted him to go back to the human world to keep out of danger... She said so... she also said she didnt want him to die...

Now if it was just about him taking off the rosario or the blood, she wouldnt send him to the human world... she wouldnt have either that way.

And I can see that whole battle thing happening, but not the giving of blood.... Atleast not in the way of him injecting her... Maybe her drinking it to increase her regenerative capabilities...

was that to HNX comment or towards this thread lol?

whichever it is, I agree with both, frankly we can discuss this for the next 20 pages, or we can put it as a plothole and leave it there ^_^

dont flame me, its just an option T_T

Alright no more! Lol
DONT reply to this thread anymore
Not even to say "OK"! Lol

End of Thread

Im enjoying this.... You dont want to post here you guys dont have to....

And Ill stop posting here when the actual conversation dies and a MODERATOR closes the thread...

yes, now we are getting closer... The Full Vampire Moka, needs a Life or Death Fight where She has gotten her Butt Kick to near death, and Tsukune Changes, into a Full Vampire with NO Ghoul side effects, and Beats up the other Monster,
in front of her, with easy... but she is dying, and this time Tsukune Bits Her, and gives her his blood.

As for the other girls, I agree, I would drop Moka, along time ago.. with all the other girls out there.
:)

I dont think that will ever happen to be honest.... Sure, he may be able to learn to control the power like Hokuto did, but I doubt he will ever be a "full" vampire... Sorry to say...

And I would have given up on Moka as well... I dont get the whole pursuit till the end sort of thing, but then again, I have never been so stuck on a girl that I refused to date others till i got to date her... I really dont understand that aspect of alot of manga...

And I believe I am nearing GrrDraxin's level of multi quoting with this one:smoker:...

[shadowThingy]

Like I said, I meant no offence, was just a suggestion ^_^, yes there's nothing wrong with discussion.....but not when every post is tl;dr

:P

ill personally just wait and see how the mangaka expands the relationship between inner moka and tsukune, rather than brainstorm the possibilties ^_^

[TigersDemon]

but brainstroming is so much fun! i can sit around for hours just thinking of all the possibilitys :)

[Sonic8264]

just remember to stay on topic... or bad things will come your way..

[LordRichardWellington]

I would have given up on Moka as well... I dont get the whole pursuit till the end sort of thing, but then again, I have never been so stuck on a girl that I refused to date others till i got to date her... I really dont understand that aspect of alot of manga...

About that topic: In the chapter about Tsukune's birthday She says she loves him (picture below in the spoiler)... He liked her and she like him he just hadn't said anything... That may be why he is stuck on her...
http://www.franky-house.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=110&pictureid=1104

[tmc21121]

.... So wtf are they not together then? Im thinking it might have been a translation error....

[elicit]

About that topic: In the chapter about Tsukune's birthday She says she loves him (picture below in the spoiler)... He liked her and she like him he just hadn't said anything... That may be why he is stuck on her...
http://www.franky-house.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=110&pictureid=1104

What chapter is that? if you link me the raws i can see whether its a translation error

[LordRichardWellington]

Sure give me a few minutes.

Here is a link to download the volume raw, not sure if this helps you...
http://megaupload.com/?d=Q9Q67PJV

If you don't feel like downloading it, then once I download it I'll post a link to the pictures via my photobucket.

[shadowThingy]

judging from his reaction, it doesnt seem like a translation error, I just think that outer moka is just too carefree too notice inner moka's feelings on it

[Sonic8264]

true... she is to care free... like at the pool in like chapter 3, when she couldnt get wet, but she did anyway, just for Tsukune....

[TigersDemon]

but her care-freeness is very cute sometimes :)

[zpro]

I honestly want a chapter dedicated to Inner just walking around for a day w/ Tsukune.... not necessarily a date persay, just her walking around...

Moka has said so herself that its not about him taking off the Rosary or his blood. She actually wanted him to go back to the human world to keep out of danger... She said so... she also said she didnt want him to die...

Now if it was just about him taking off the rosario or the blood, she wouldnt send him to the human world... she wouldnt have either that way.

And I can see that whole battle thing happening, but not the giving of blood.... Atleast not in the way of him injecting her... Maybe her drinking it to increase her regenerative capabilities...
.

Yes, Okay, maybe a day out at death park, by blood lake with the inner Moka,
and have a nice quiet chat.. How about seeing inner Moka, crack a smile or small giggle .. ( I might be pushing it..) having Tsukune turn red in the cheeks,
Who knows, maybe the inner Moka, might want to have a few more walk in the parks with Tsukune... and start to appreciate him more, cause see can see it first hand ? (oops ) I wish

As for the major fight scene, let her re-bite Tsukune for a quick boost, might work, or What I was thinking... what goes around comes around..
You saved me, I save you..

They got allot of material to work with, a human boy in a monster world,
in the beginning Monster hates Human, and Human hates Monster.. but this school was built to LEARN HOW to co-exist with Humans, other words, act and behave like... You have to remember how Tsukune got into this school, the priest drop the enrollment form,
some how, I thought that was stage.. may or may not, but IMHO, it does appear,
that it was a setup to bring a human kid, to see how a human kid can adapt to School for Monster, because, the bus driver, knew Tsukune was human, and so does the Chairman of the Board, well anyways.. then you see the girls go nutz for Tsukune , infact Moka knows before anyone else Tsukune is Human,
only towards then end to the other girls find out that he is Human, but still willing to protect him with there lives. Wow, it looks like the Chairman master plan is working Monster and Humans Live together co-existing and even falling in Love (okay, please no three headed babies)

Cheers
:highfive:

[TigersDemon]

meethinks three heads would be bad...

[elicit]

Sure give me a few minutes.

Here is a link to download the volume raw, not sure if this helps you...
http://megaupload.com/?d=Q9Q67PJV

If you don't feel like downloading it, then once I download it I'll post a link to the pictures via my photobucket.

Just give me the pic. I've problems dling from MU

[LordRichardWellington]

Here is the direct link:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/deathkid456/Volume%202/RV02_088.jpg

[elicit]

The translator over translated it.. She meant she likes him a lot

Tsukune, I like you a lot!

Not till the love stage or rather I don't think she meant it that way

[tmc21121]

Yes, Okay, maybe a day out at death park, by blood lake with the inner Moka,
and have a nice quiet chat.. How about seeing inner Moka, crack a smile or small giggle .. ( I might be pushing it..) having Tsukune turn red in the cheeks,
Who knows, maybe the inner Moka, might want to have a few more walk in the parks with Tsukune... and start to appreciate him more, cause see can see it first hand ? (oops ) I wish

As for the major fight scene, let her re-bite Tsukune for a quick boost, might work, or What I was thinking... what goes around comes around..
You saved me, I save you..

They got allot of material to work with, a human boy in a monster world,
in the beginning Monster hates Human, and Human hates Monster.. but this school was built to LEARN HOW to co-exist with Humans, other words, act and behave like... You have to remember how Tsukune got into this school, the priest drop the enrollment form,
some how, I thought that was stage.. may or may not, but IMHO, it does appear,
that it was a setup to bring a human kid, to see how a human kid can adapt to School for Monster, because, the bus driver, knew Tsukune was human, and so does the Chairman of the Board, well anyways.. then you see the girls go nutz for Tsukune , infact Moka knows before anyone else Tsukune is Human,
only towards then end to the other girls find out that he is Human, but still willing to protect him with there lives. Wow, it looks like the Chairman master plan is working Monster and Humans Live together co-existing and even falling in Love (okay, please no three headed babies)

Cheers
:highfive:

I have a feeling that it was staged as well... Maybe Tsukune and Hokuto were experements? It serves to remind us what different people will do under similar circumstances... Maybe if Hokuto had found friends like the girls he would have turned out different, maybe even similar to Tsukune?

[HNX]

I have a feeling that it was staged as well... Maybe Tsukune and Hokuto were experements? It serves to remind us what different people will do under similar circumstances... Maybe if Hokuto had found friends like the girls he would have turned out different, maybe even similar to Tsukune?

lol thats exactly what hokuto says to tsuku, he says if we had met before we would;ve been good friends Lol but because he was treated differently Lol he became like this and his only friend is the other shiznet that gives him blood all the time Lol

the comon stuff that they is that both we're humans previously but became monsters now Lol

HNX

[zpro]

true... she is to care free... like at the pool in like chapter 3, when she couldnt get wet, but she did anyway, just for Tsukune....

True, But the other inner Moka, gave some trash talk.. so its almost like its two hearts outer Moka, and Inner Moka ..

Yes, outer Moka is carefree, but when Tsukune was thinking of leaving for good, or going home... She was in a panic of Losing Him.. You See in Chapter 39 as I stated before, All Those Girls show up at Tsukune home, only Moka uses the Door.

Like I said, before " please read the first page..." The inner Moka, tell Tsukune, he must choose... Can you image if Tsukune Choose the ice women, That Moka, would not get pisst... No more sucking my boyfriend neck...!!

So, I think it goes with out saying, that its has to be Moka & Tsukune,
but which Moka ?

It would be nice, if the Chairman remove the cross, and gave Moka a test for
good behavior, now she walking around begin a full vampire.. But you think,
she going to drink Monster Blood? Nah... its Tsukune, Tsukune could have something to say about it.

Well, its great to discuss the inner and the outer of Moka, but as long,
they ( the producers of Rosario Vampire ) don't mess up the important connections between girl and boy or monster and human or vampire and hybrid human... take your pick.

I like it when they all jump in as a team, working together to solve problems,
that what the chairman wanted.

keep it comming.
Regards-
:Hi:

[tmc21121]

Being with Outer and not inner is not possible... Inner and Outer are essentially the same woman. Outer is just a representation of inner without the pride and arrogance of being a vampire.... To be blunt, Outer is the "real" inner, while Inner is the real outer. Besides, they have the same body... would you want to be with a split personality woman who changes in the middle of intimate relations and gets mad?

[DaMaster]

why not? :p that's what makes moka so interesting 'cause both of her personalities are cool :D

[ff nut]

i think the problem lies with outer being submissive and inner being dominant in the relationship issue and inner showed that quality quite well in chapter one of season 2

[Ilesyt]

lol , for a moment when I read elicit's post, I thought he actually liked someone who was called Tsukune in here alot xD

that was before I read the rest of the post , above and down xD

Anyway, you're almost done with Season 1!! Hang in there elicit!

[tmc21121]

i think the problem lies with outer being submissive and inner being dominant in the relationship issue and inner showed that quality quite well in chapter one of season 2


Yes... I can see her refusing to be on the bottom... Saying something along the lines as "You expect me to be on the bottom? Know your place!!"... Yeah...

[DaMaster]

dude... I honestly don't thin it's gonna be that way... XD

[tmc21121]

Well, She thinks every one is beneath her.... So if the act does happen between her and Tsukune, he might as well be beneath her... Besides, I dont complain when the lady wants on top...

[shadowThingy]

above, below, on top, beneath, side to side, if your gettin some from moka who gives a sh*t?

[tmc21121]

I do? There are some positions that are just plain draining to your stamina... and arent worth it....

[DaMaster]

I agree with shadow completely :D

[HNX]

no TMC is right, there are some positions that are just too tiresome (is that a word) i like on top Lol less work and fun for the one on top Lol

HNX

[DaMaster]

I'm just going to remain silent until the "positions" talk is over.......

[LordRichardWellington]

Dude, you are just giving tmc the chance to call you a prude again...

How the Fudge can this thread get back on topic?

Oh I know (at least how to make this post relavent... to some extent...) Moka was very general about her statement in chapter 39 and didn't exactly exclude herself.

[tmc21121]

Yeah, She didnt exclude, or include herself... she just wasnt specific... She said pick someone.... it didnt have to be anyone of the women that were there...

Oh and DaMas, stop being such a prude.... Lol

[DaMaster]

just call me a prude again... well I'm leaving guys see ya later and already cut the offtopicness ;)

[Znail]

i think the problem lies with outer being submissive and inner being dominant in the relationship issue and inner showed that quality quite well in chapter one of season 2

So, to get back on topic a little. I wouldnt call inner Moka dominant, but rather fiercly independant. She hardly ever tells anyone to do or not to do anything, might be because telling someone to do something is too close to asking for help. Most of the time she just does what needs to be done without asking for neither help nor instructions.

About the translation. I belive that sometimes so are 'like alot' used instead of love by the japanese as I have seen it used for love confessions. So its not strange that the translators got that meaning from it.

[ff nut]

Yes... I can see her refusing to be on the bottom... Saying something along the lines as "You expect me to be on the bottom? Know your place!!"... Yeah...


well you dont know how close you actually are i was shocked when i read it cos the day before i read it i posted the exact same thing

[joaotwix]

this is seriously giving me a headache..

well, there's still a chapter missing so who knows the gap may still be filled. inner-moka is a very confusing character because she doen's appear enough time to know something more about her. i do believe that she expects tsukune to do something.. the end of the 13th epsiode of the anime gives a clue. tsukune didn't really show affection for inner moka.. only at the ending of the anime. maybe that's what's going to happen.. he might start falling for inner moka. that may be the only thing that is missing for moka to accept him. you gotta remenber that he wants outerr and not inner. summing up, it's sort of jealousy.. my opinion though

[HNX]

the gap aint gone be filled!
If you read season II you'll understand, thres soo much left to be known so i think thats what season II is about!

HNX

[TigersDemon]

OMG!! i cant wait for 40 so i can really start on the new season!

[zpro]

Yeah, She didnt exclude, or include herself... she just wasnt specific... She said pick someone.... it didnt have to be anyone of the women that were there...

Oh and DaMas, stop being such a prude.... Lol

Well, I would say after re-read that, it was clear, she was speaking in present tense, referring to the "Cat Fight" with all present company included.

Unless the writers are going to add more girls... <yikes>
So, it would be save to say: as then or now, pick one.

Cheers
:poke:

[zpro]

the gap aint gone be filled!
If you read season II you'll understand, thres soo much left to be known so i think thats what season II is about!

HNX


You would think, if they have that much info (or story) they would double there efforts and product 2 a month.
[side note]
Back in the 80's when I started collect jap comics, there where a few, that came out bi-weekly, lasted about 3 years... was the bomb.. no gaps. / infact, had many times, gone back to re-read. miss little details. [/side note]

it would be nice, if they did it with Rosario Vampire.
:)

[TigersDemon]

wouldn't it though

[zpro]

Well, after re-read all the manga and watching the all the anime of Rosario Vampire,
would I dare say.. I have a little more understanding since, the cross, is to "Contain" the true Vampire Moka

Moka, can NOT remove the cross, So far its only Tsukune whom can... HOW ?
it happen when he confessed he (Tsukune) Even thou you are still a Vampire,
"I Still Like You" (anime) I Like You Moka-san Manga

So, when he said that, there seems to be a connection between Moka and Tsukune
and the Cross... should I say a bond ..at first

Next, we have the inner and outer Moka
When inner Moka is out or released, its all of Moka both inner and outer at the same time.
other words she is a Full Power Vampire Girl, with a tough outside and a tender inside.
she shows her pride and power, but her inside longs for a companion a friend, her pride gets in the way, allot of times, along with her cold hearted comments.. she there is a battle between self's >side step< how come when the cross is off, she does not keep it off ?
>some history on that would be nice< So, perhaps after so long she forgot how to socialize with people or monsters.. being lock up .

So, as the story goes on in manga and anime, I can see differences in the romances with Moka and Tsukune.. using the anime in Chapter 13.. I can see, "What inner Moka" thinks about him... She was pisst off to the Max, That Tsukune was going to die. So, everyone knew he was a Human, and were willing to risk there lives for him... This was a important fact,
that the other girls, per say really Like/Loved Tsukune as a plain jane Human.
So, Moka knew if she inject him with her blood, might help to save him... and does so...
Watch her Eyes.. There was a strong emotion connection there of compassion...

Then we have Moka, whom got her butt kick, due to saving Tsukune , running on half power
just before the final move was executed Tsukune picks up Moka (the Vampire Moka) and saves her. Look at his Eyes, its Like he is all business... Then he wakes up, holding the Vampire Moka, in his arms.. and she makes small talk with him.. calls him a sleep head..
>side note< wondering how Vampire Moka feeled about being saved by a lowly human
well from that point in the anime, it would appear she was fine with it.

So, Tsukune has to get to Inner Moka, Then...he will get both.
Again, it would be nice, if they throw in some history, on how the cross was put on Moka.

Cheers

[TigersDemon]

wow... that was really long, but insightful :) i was kinda wondering about the rosario thing to, but it doesn't bother me if i never find out

[joaotwix]

apparently the 2nd season will answer that and everything else and put some more in it. In 7 chapters it added quite a good amount of info..

[TigersDemon]

really? mabey i need to do more then skimm it...

[Znail]

As for inner Moka being cold, I think that is an absolute requirement for a vampire in this manga and not realy a personality problem issue with Moka. We are told that the natural instincts of Vampires are to kill and drink blood. So she has to keep her emotions in check to not go on a rampage, thus being rather reserved.

In addition to that so is she rather proud and self reliant so are rather unlikely to tell anyone that she needs them or even admit it to herself. This is probobly the biggest hurdle.

But despite that I actualy find inner Moka rather sweet towards Tsukune most of the time. Its even clearer considering that Tsukune is pretty much the only one she treats like anything else then a rock or enemy.

[TigersDemon]

she does treat every one else like a rock doesn't she :) or an insect

[SuperDuperMan]

As for inner Moka being cold, I think that is an absolute requirement for a vampire in this manga and not realy a personality problem issue with Moka. We are told that the natural instincts of Vampires are to kill and drink blood. So she has to keep her emotions in check to not go on a rampage, thus being rather reserved.

In addition to that so is she rather proud and self reliant so are rather unlikely to tell anyone that she needs them or even admit it to herself. This is probobly the biggest hurdle.

But despite that I actualy find inner Moka rather sweet towards Tsukune most of the time. Its even clearer considering that Tsukune is pretty much the only one she treats like anything else then a rock or enemy.

As you say all these things are in my opinion correct but i have one i could add. Has anyone thought of the fact that shes was extremely embarrassed by her actions that defied her normal action? She may have been a bit extreme but this tends to happen in alot of manga that i have read.

[Sonic8264]

well.. the super extremeness of her actions is also a critical part of her character as a whole, and is a defining part of her personality within the manga

[TigersDemon]

what extreamness?

[Znail]

As you say all these things are in my opinion correct but i have one i could add. Has anyone thought of the fact that shes was extremely embarrassed by her actions that defied her normal action? She may have been a bit extreme but this tends to happen in alot of manga that i have read.

Hehe, yeah, I think she was a bit flustered there. But her comments was actual a bit tongue in cheek and humorous so she might not have been quite that upset. Its quite possible that the fact that she wasnt in controll was what bothered her the most. Wich would also fit with wanting her and not other Moka in charge over their relationship.

[zpro]

As for inner Moka being cold, I think that is an absolute requirement for a vampire in this manga and not realy a personality problem issue with Moka. We are told that the natural instincts of Vampires are to kill and drink blood. So she has to keep her emotions in check to not go on a rampage, thus being rather reserved.

In addition to that so is she rather proud and self reliant so are rather unlikely to tell anyone that she needs them or even admit it to herself. This is probobly the biggest hurdle.

But despite that I actualy find inner Moka rather sweet towards Tsukune most of the time. Its even clearer considering that Tsukune is pretty much the only one she treats like anything else then a rock or enemy.

Expect for that one time, when Tsukune turn into a ghoul and Moka,
try to Kill Him. its like Moka, can we talk about this, NO, its my fault you turn into a ghoul, and thanks for save me, but now I going to kill you.. <yikes>
"Jackal and Hide x 2

Thank Goodness, the Chairman was near by with a cross...?

Cheers
:highfive:

[Znail]

Expect for that one time, when Tsukune turn into a ghoul and Moka,
try to Kill Him. its like Moka, can we talk about this, NO, its my fault you turn into a ghoul, and thanks for save me, but now I going to kill you.. <yikes>
"Jackal and Hide x 2

Thank Goodness, the Chairman was near by with a cross...?

Cheers
:highfive:

Tsukune wasnt rational so she couldnt exactly talk it over with him. But ofcourse it was a mistake, but she asumed that what she knew about ghouls to be true. But she wasnt exactly happy about it and she did it to save him from hurting people. It was a while since I read it, but I do seem to remember that she was somewhat more emotional then her usual cool manner at that time.

[zpro]

Tsukune wasnt rational so she couldnt exactly talk it over with him. But ofcourse it was a mistake, but she asumed that what she knew about ghouls to be true. But she wasnt exactly happy about it and she did it to save him from hurting people. It was a while since I read it, but I do seem to remember that she was somewhat more emotional then her usual cool manner at that time.

Well.. Yes.. she did not even think about per say, as looking for options,
I just have to kill him now, What about knocking him out.

Well the chairman was there, and put the cross on him, then later, a locket
beware... chairman said that locket was NOT design for him. Then we see Tsukune
in a fight with that guy who's feet are like Rollerblades... and That monster, is going to kill Moka, Tsukune could not catch him, until he force the vampire out,
and use it power under his control (or until his will) to save his friend.

<side note> wonder if Tsukune becomes a pure hybrid Human/Vampire at will
walking around without the locket around his wrist. because he can control it.
... Then Moka can suck Tsukune human blood, then when Tsukune is in a fight,
he can bring out the Vampire with full strength.
</side note> IMHO the inner Moka is going to have someone as powerful as her
or stronger, But... he also a lowly human. Boy, that would be a twist.

Reasoning behind that was thinking about Vikings and Barbarians the strong females, only wanted the strongest warriors to mate with. Since inner Moka, is a pure Vampire, as we all have been discussing... She too has the pride of Strength, and Nobility in her. So... kinda goes along those lines... That why IMHO, Tsukune is going from this weak lowly human to this strong manly person. Just look at both anime and manga, you can see the transformation of Tsukune "He is changing" The Girls, are in love with him more.

Well, enough for now... it will be nice to see which way the writers go.
for the series.

:highfive:

[TigersDemon]

i would be so great if he stopped being the ordanariy looking guy and turned into the OMFG hot guy :)

[zpro]

i would be so great if he stopped being the ordanariy looking guy and turned into the OMFG hot guy :)

Boy, that would just get him into way more fights, if he's OKAY Looking now,
with the vampire blood changing him inside, bringing out some manly looks,
and charm... the other girl (monster) may start to take notice... 5 or 10 more girls..
<yikes>

Well, looking at Rosario Vampire Season II manga, we can see Moka little sister,
has tasted Tsukune Blood ( and likes it ) oh boy!

Cheers
:Hi:

[TigersDemon]

:D its gonna be a great season. and he really needs help in the manly looks department :)

HOLD IT JUST ONE SECOND!!! I was just re-reading chapter 36 and i noticed something that seems to change everything involving kokoa!! it say in chapter 36 that moka has two older sisters and one younger weird dont you think? when it says in season 2 that she is the 2nd oldest?

[shadowThingy]

:D its gonna be a great season. and he really needs help in the manly looks department :)

HOLD IT JUST ONE SECOND!!! I was just re-reading chapter 36 and i noticed something that seems to change everything involving kokoa!! it say in chapter 36 that moka has two older sisters and one younger weird dont you think? when it says in season 2 that she is the 2nd oldest?

nonono, moka is the second oldest, so its like this,

oldest sister (unknown)
moka
second middle sister (unknown)
Kokoa

as you can see though, this wouldnt make sense since kokoa is in the year below moka at school, ive been talking about this in the R+V gallery thread so go read my posts there <_<




EDIT: I checked again and she said she's the 3rd of 4 sisters, I musta read it wrong, but I could swear she says second oldest somewhere >_<




EDIT AGAIN: ok this is really weird, I wasnt wrong, at least I dont think so, look!



http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/bx111gamer/RVsisters.jpg


looks like season 2 is contradicting season 1 again X_X

[TigersDemon]

GAA!!!!!!!!!! its so confusing!!!

[shadowThingy]

it seems ive inadvertently discovered another contradicting plothole between S1 and S2 >_<

[TigersDemon]

i wonder which is the right one?

[tmc21121]

Honestly, I think that contradiction might be due to translation errors.... that particular chapter wasnt translated by Elicit... and neither was the other one in SI.... Sounds plausable doncha think?

[shadowThingy]

we dont know that, thats the problem, one could be right, the other could be wrong, or vice versa, or they could be both wrong, or both right >_<

[tmc21121]

Still, my theory is plausable....

[zpro]

Well, if its 3 or 4 in the family for Moka, and they are all girls...
Can you image, if Moka Oldest sis, pays her a visit, and meets Tsukune.

Man, that Tsukune better work on his 6 pack :Jump_Roll:
he going to need it.

Cheer's
:poke:

[tmc21121]

That and a blood bank.... of his own blood.... so that when they are finished draining him he can just replace it....

[zpro]

That and a blood bank.... of his own blood.... so that when they are finished draining him he can just replace it....

Boy, you left the door open on that one...<grin> too much sucking going on.
man, I kinda feel sorry for him. :sorry:

NOT :Jump_Roll:

Cheers

[DaMaster]

yeah... poor Tsukune... XD

[TigersDemon]

heh... sucking blood his blood might be the very least of his worries :) can you imagin the size of the fight?

[Sonic8264]

an epic battle of epic proportions... lol

[TigersDemon]

one the would certanily be worth the watch :D

[tmc21121]

4 vampire sister battle royal.... In nothing but their skivs... :ecchismile:

[n3xus]

IMHO that's a very pleasant image in my mind.

[tmc21121]

Hmmm, Now if only water wasnt one of their weaknesses... There could be a rain storm that turns the field into mud... and it can turn into some mud wrestling.... :gushing:

[Znail]

Ah, I think it was only 'pure' water that was dangerous due to its cleansing properties. I think mud is as unpure and uncleansing as it comes so they should be able to do some mud wrestling! :Hip Hip:

[LordRichardWellington]

It wouldn't be a problem if it was herbal water... Yes herbal water... That could work...:ecchismile:

[tmc21121]

I can see it now... the only leverage is grabbing eachothers skivs.... and because they are so fricken strong, they tear off instantly...

[TigersDemon]

O_O so, many, images!

[shadowThingy]

as good as these images sound, id rather not indulge them with a bunch of horny hairy guys <_<

[TigersDemon]

heh heh heh i agree :)

[matty543]

bugger off water and mud they should fight in milk................... :gushing:

[n3xus]

:on_fire:


milk? that also reminds me of other things.

[shadowThingy]

how about fighting in a pool of milkshake, yum.....

[matty543]

milk? that also reminds me of other things.

Thats the whole point :D

Maybe yogurt would be better....................:gushing: yep it definately is

[TigersDemon]

*noesbleed*: oh... can i get that on video or something? i know lots of peopple who would pay through the nose to get that :)

[n3xus]

We are blurring the line between echi and hentai. lets try to keep our heads.

[TigersDemon]

*sigh* the line was drawn to be blured :D

[n3xus]

Lol, they'd never publish R+V in english dub in the english shonen jump, good thing too.

[shadowThingy]

Lol, they'd never publish R+V in english dub in the english shonen jump, good thing too.

we dont know that, since the first english volume was only released a few days ago

[n3xus]

theres plenty of good stuff they don't serialize in the magazine that you can get from graphic novels.

[LF2005]

:Hi:
way it's taking this much the last chapter ?
someone know when the chapter will be release ?

[Peku]

It shall be released when it's done. Too bad it takes too long. I want R+V too >.>

[DarkBlood]

I trhink I saw something about the translation being done. Just have to wait until someone scanlates it.

[matty543]

if the trans really is done it shouldnt take that much longer then :D if it is done...

[DarkBlood]

Yeah but from what I heard it were supposed to be done around monday this week.. And it's friday now..

[matty543]

is it just me or is frankyhouse falling behind in every series their scanlating? no offense to all the scanlators or anything its just they use to be alot faster

At least FH isnt as slow as solaris SVU i waited 2-3months(maybe longer) for the new kanokon ch to come out :(

[DarkBlood]

Alot of FH's scanlators is away because of exams and stuff, that's probably why.

[Ilesyt]

The translation was supposed to be done, but there's difficulty finding a scanlator, maybe Kopite will do it again

[DarkBlood]

Yeah that's probably the most likely thing to happen. :p Since Kopite did the last five(?) chapters.

[Ranma87]

I am working on it now, I hope to have it done by wednesday or thursday at the latest.

Frankyhouse no longer scanalates RV, thats why Helz0ne picked it up. We have been only doing season 2 releases but I was specifically asked to finish the last chapter of season 1 since no one else appears to be doing it.

[Phantasimo]

Thats good =)

[TigersDemon]

FINALLY! im so glad that someone is finally doing it :)

[Ranma87]

I originally planned to release today, but it really isn't looking good because im kind of running behind...

So probably either later today or tomorrow

[TigersDemon]

O_O if you get it out by tomorrow you will be the temporary god of scanlation :D

[T-6000]

I originally planned to release today, but it really isn't looking good because im kind of running behind...

So probably either later today or tomorrow

That's good to hear. Take as much time as you need, if you need to delay it for tomorow feel free to do it.

[TigersDemon]

well take as much time as you need within reason :) because if i have to wait for another week something will die :)

[Znail]

Hehe, I dont see any reason for stress as after this chapter so are the series up to date with translations, so now we only need one scan a month. :Hi:

[Ranma87]

As a progress report im about 3/4 done

[LuoMi]

sounds good :D

[Ranma87]

I'm trying to put the pedal to the metal to get it out today...

so a few more hours at best...

the biggest problem with this chapter is that there is so much text outside of the boxes, it increases the editing time

[TigersDemon]

is that a bad thing?

[HNX]

is it over yet? omg this thread is from JUNE~!

Need my RV dose :s,
HNX

[rax_paul]

Hi :Hi:

couple of questions about season 1 of R+V not gonna make a new thread since I read the description of this thread..and here we go...

1)Is Tsukune Aono (青野 月音) a familiar? a ghoul or a what? My guess is he is a ghoul but because of the seal he remains in control but if the seal is broken he will return to being a ghoul regardless of how much self control he has?

Does that also explain his unusual strength?

2)Was his issue about his seal "weakening" ever resolved in season 1?

3)Why did Moka treat the other "harm" girls tshat way on the second to the last chapter(138?) ...

sorry Grrdraxin, I was too lazy to skim through 1oo+ pages of forum posts....

[TigersDemon]

Hi :Hi:

couple of questions about season 1 of R+V not gonna make a new thread since I read the description of this thread..and here we go...

1)Is Tsukune Aono (青野 月音) a familiar? a ghoul or a what? My guess is he is a ghoul but because of the seal he remains in control but if the seal is broken he will return to being a ghoul regardless of how much self control he has?

Does that also explain his unusual strength?

2)Was his issue about his seal "weakening" ever resolved in season 1?

3)Why did Moka treat the other "harm" girls tshat way on the second to the last chapter(138?) ...

sorry Grrdraxin, I was too lazy to skim through 1oo+ pages of forum posts....

first, we really know almost nothing about tsukune's state atm, second, the weakinng was never fixed, and third, who knows -_-"

[rax_paul]

hopefully season 2 addresses this for both manga and anime

[Silversky]

Hi :Hi:

couple of questions about season 1 of R+V not gonna make a new thread since I read the description of this thread..and here we go...

1)Is Tsukune Aono (青野 月音) a familiar? a ghoul or a what? My guess is he is a ghoul but because of the seal he remains in control but if the seal is broken he will return to being a ghoul regardless of how much self control he has?

Does that also explain his unusual strength?

2)Was his issue about his seal "weakening" ever resolved in season 1?

3)Why did Moka treat the other "harm" girls tshat way on the second to the last chapter(138?) ...

sorry Grrdraxin, I was too lazy to skim through 1oo+ pages of forum posts....

Well.. if you're updated to the latest chapter (scanlation release - R+V S2 Chapter 12), so far what was explained was that he's a ghoul.

So, I think there is a better question. There was no clear explaination n ghoul in R+V. The thing explained was that ghoul is an undead. The way it was explained was that ghoul is something like zombie+vampire. In other word, a vambies. So, the question is that: doesn't it mean that he's already dead? If so, shouldn't he now can be classified as a youkai too? And also as an S class?

Another thing that had being bugging me is, Do you think that tsukune might one day get stronger than Moka?

[TigersDemon]

that would be awsome if he was stronger then Moka dont you think?

vambie? why does that remind me of a vampire Bambie?

[Silversky]

well.. If you take vampire + zombie = won't it be vambie. I know it sounds stupid. just can't find better word. Btw, the name reminds me of Brave Fencer Musashi (PS1). It got a type of enemy which was named vambies.

I do hope he gets stronger. The titled was named Rosario+Vampire. Since now he got a type of rosario + vampire blood inside him. It'll make no effect on the title.

[tri_kento]

mmm I think he could be stronger, but when he reaches his fulll power..of ghoulish ness. he has no control. So he's kinda just a reckless slob. If he could pull off some way to have control while in full ghoul mode. Well then we'd have a good fight! and again we haven't put the factor of battle arena....like near water? So... i have no idea. hopefully we learn a little more in the chapters to come... I'm going to say the bracelet breaks soon tho! it's been close for the whole 1st season. And then maybe he'll get a crazy cool Rosario Chasity belt. :P ha ha

[TigersDemon]

chasity belt? like he really needs one. ... actually he might, just to keep kurumu from rapeing him or something :)